President Obama: Policy, Presidency, and Person

Andrew, Jr. · 05-19-2010, 03:00 PM

I was just at the doctors office. I thought I would bring this thread up there since it is always a long wait. I scribbled down what some folks said, and wanted to share their responses here with you all.

One lady stated that she feared that with the BP oil spill, it would show the world how poor our polical system is and needs to be changed. How can BP drill off our coast and not allow any scienctists there to help? It shows that the true reality of our state of being.

One man stated that Mr. Obama is a tremendous speaker, but that is it. He is someone who can be a leader, but others have his hands tied.

Another man stated that we are going to see alot of changes. We just have to get rid of the old politics, and the good ol' boy system.

Andrew

Toughy · 05-19-2010, 04:20 PM

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Re the 2010 Census: White people will no longer be such a minority. They've taken off a place for Hispanics, Latinos etc. completely. We are all supposed to check white. There isn't even an other box. How in the world is that census going to give an accurate reflection?

huh??? http://2010.census.gov/2010census/ho...ctive-form.php

question 8 is specifically about hispanic /latino/spanish identifying folks...

question 9 is about everyone else in terms of race/ethnic identity....

they even changed the order these question were asked from the 2000 Census so they will get higher numbers of hispanic/latino/spanish folks......they found out if you ask question 9 first you get fewer h/l/s folks and more white folks.......

what am I missing here???

Toughy · 05-19-2010, 04:27 PM

I think the 'average american' is scared shitless about a black man as President. The reason is the lack of exposure and real time frequent interaction with anyone who is not white. (I think the same thing is happening around folks who are followers of Islam but that is another thread...Obama is not Muslim, he is Christian but has a funny ass name.) You fear what you don't know.

And then there are those ignorant fucks who are just flat bigots and racists.

SuperFemme · 05-19-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

huh??? http://2010.census.gov/2010census/ho...ctive-form.php

question 8 is specifically about hispanic /latino/spanish identifying folks...

question 9 is about everyone else in terms of race/ethnic identity....

they even changed the order these question were asked from the 2000 Census so they will get higher numbers of hispanic/latino/spanish folks......they found out if you ask question 9 first you get fewer h/l/s folks and more white folks.......

what am I missing here???

I didn't know that there was no form of Hispanic Race. At all. I still find it troubling.

Martina · 05-19-2010, 05:34 PM

This has nothing to do with the race issue.

He is the first Democrat i have voted for since Clinton (the first time). The next three elections, i voted Nader.

i will be voting third party next time. Obama's education policies are elitist, ill-considered, herd-following, cruelly Capitalist, and just plain doomed to fail.

SuperFemme · 05-19-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Martina

This has nothing to do with the race issue.

He is the first Democrat i have voted for since Clinton (the first time). The next three elections, i voted Nader.

i will be voting third party next time. Obama's education policies are elitist, ill-considered, herd-following, cruelly Capitalist, and just plain doomed to fail.

Where can I find his education policies?

Martina · 05-19-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFemme

Where can I find his education policies?

Here's my point of view on it -- Diane Ravitch's critique -- or a short bit of it --
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ans...ry-ed-ref.html

Here's a really long NYTimes Magazine article that supports it -- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/ma...pagewanted=all

SuperFemme · 05-19-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Martina

Here's my point of view on it -- Diane Ravitch's critique -- or a short bit of it --
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ans...ry-ed-ref.html

Here's a really long NYTimes Magazine article that supports it -- http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/ma...pagewanted=all

Thank you so much.

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Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,283 Times in 4,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	This has nothing to do with the race issue. He is the first Democrat i have voted for since Clinton (the first time). The next three elections, i voted Nader. i will be voting third party next time. Obama's education policies are elitist, ill-considered, herd-following, cruelly Capitalist, and just plain doomed to fail.