How many femmes are attracted to butches?

[Signmypapyrus]

But aren’t there degrees of butchness? Like today I saw a photo of Kate Spade, and jeez, if she were just a bit more masculine.... ugh yes! Or Cherry Jones is another one.
Granted, it’s down to personality. Like the butches I’ve liked are confident, smart, kind, and carry themselves in a certain way.

Maybe?

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by Signmypapyrus

But aren’t there degrees of butchness? Like today I saw a photo of Kate Spade, and jeez, if she were just a bit more masculine.... ugh yes! Or Cherry Jones is another one.
Granted, it’s down to personality. Like the butches I’ve liked are confident, smart, kind, and carry themselves in a certain way.

Maybe?

Ive heard many non butch femme folks talk about degrees of butchness. To me having degrees of anything negates someones identity.

[Signmypapyrus]

Originally Posted by JDeere

Ive heard many non butch femme folks talk about degrees of butchness. To me having degrees of anything negates someones identity.

But isn’t this just socially constructing a binary then? The same could go for femmes. I’m not super femme-y, which dismantles social hierarchies and gender distinctions. I think that’s the beauty of what Judith Butler was getting at when she was talking about gender being performative.

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by Signmypapyrus

But isn’t this just socially constructing a binary then? The same could go for femmes. I’m not super femme-y, which dismantles social hierarchies and gender distinctions. I think that’s the beauty of what Judith Butler was getting at when she was talking about gender being performative.

Idk about constructing a binary. I just don't really care what others outside of the glbtqia community think about gender.

[Signmypapyrus]

Originally Posted by JDeere

Idk about constructing a binary. I just don't really care what others outside of the glbtqia community think about gender.

Oh! Thanks for letting me know. For reference, this is Judith Butler: https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/faculty/judith-butler

[Chained Daisy]

In response the the thread there are lots of Femmes and Butches out there I believe but they are scattered far and wide, a statistical cluster would be advantageous for dating I think !

Though no longer taking applications or applying I am attracted to Butches and FTM`s.

As far as the phrase `degrees of butchness` goes I would take that to just be a clumsy way of saying the spectrum of how Butches present, from tomboi, soft butch, or harder, extremely masculine looking etc. Every Butch and every Femme has their own unique blend and I dont believe how they present, their preferences in the bedroom or whether they are a Butch attracted to other Butches or likewise with Femmes gives them any more or less of a degree of their identity.

Peace.

[Signmypapyrus]

Originally Posted by Chained Daisy

In response the the thread there are lots of Femmes and Butches out there I believe but they are scattered far and wide, a statistical cluster would be advantageous for dating I think !

Though no longer taking applications or applying I am attracted to Butches and FTM`s.

As far as the phrase `degrees of butchness` goes I would take that to just be a clumsy way of saying the spectrum of how Butches present, from tomboi, soft butch, or harder, extremely masculine looking etc. Every Butch and every Femme has their own unique blend and I dont believe how they present, their preferences in the bedroom or whether they are a Butch attracted to other Butches or likewise with Femmes gives them any more or less of a degree of their identity.

Peace.

Yes, I think this is a great way of putting it! And for reference, if I hit a nerve with anyone, don't hesitate to tag me or message me! I like having these types of conversation, which I think are important.