2020 Presidential Election

[Kätzchen]

You might want to re-read my post. I know Thomas is an academic. I brought up his OTHER book, because his other book, The Wrecking Crew, makes salient points about how conservatives rule (hint: it's even in the Wrecking Crew title).

I also said that I did not belabor your point about Thomas' other book because I know he is an relevant academic writer, hence why I used his other book as cited in my academic work.

We have no argument between us. Except possibly this one: I am over badgering of the Clinton clan. I've stated that in many posts I have made over the past few years, and as recently in Anya's Presidential thread. And now, here. AND, I never said Thomas had GOP cronies. I said: "...he's got a bone to pick with GOP Cronies..." (see my prior post, please).



In the future, I will not be engaging with you on the boards. Thanks for the prior dialogue. Take good care and best wishes to you, Martina.

Best,
K.

[Martina]

People might be confused. I deleted a post of mine before I saw this response. I did reread your post, Katzchen, and realized you may have just not been responding directly to my points, which is fine, but it confused me. It doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Kätzchen

You might want to re-read my post. I know Thomas is an academic. I brought up his OTHER book, because his other book, The Wrecking Crew, makes salient points about how conservatives rule (hint: it's even in the Wrecking Crew title).

I also said that I did not belabor your point about Thomas' other book because I know he is an relevant academic writer, hence why I used his other book as cited in my academic work.

We have no argument between us. Except possibly this one: I am over badgering of the Clinton clan. I've stated that in many posts I have made over the past few years, and as recently in Anya's Presidential thread. And now, here. AND, I never said Thomas had GOP cronies. I said: "...he's got a bone to pick with GOP Cronies..." (see my prior post, please).



In the future, I will not be engaging with you on the boards. Thanks for the prior dialogue. Take good care and best wishes to you, Martina.

Best,
K.

[C0LLETTE]

Nothing personal and no angry vitriol included about your ability to understand anything at all. However I suggest you read my post again without the name "Hillary" setting off blinding fireworks.

"Please give me one good reason why Hillary was the 2nd least liked major party nominee of all time. When did that happen? Who made that happen? You all really believe there was ever only one nominee less Satanic than Hillary?"

The point was: Was she really " ... the 2nd least liked major party nominee of all time."

You draw a long list of policies you disagree with. Fine. My point is that I'm not sure any of those were the major reasons she was "disliked". I suspect that most of the folks ( except political junkies and cognizanti ) couldn't name 2 of her policies . They just didn't like her: her tone, her attitude, the sound of her voice, her pantsuits...and then they got the mocking blasts from the Right ( and the Left ) that confirmed their dislike.

No question that she has lots of faults but maybe you should Google "sexism".

[C0LLETTE]

Martina:
" You don't like left wing populists? Who the fuck cares? Bernie had to give an extra speech in Iowa today because there were so many people who couldn't get into the venue. There are lots of us, and we don't give a good God damn what you think.

You clearly know next to nothing about US politics."

If you believe the latter, though I'm not sure on what basis, perhaps you should not read my posts or respond to them. That way no one feels attacked or insulted.

[Martina]

This started with you quoting me and name-calling. Maybe you should take your own advice. I sure as hell would not be debating you without that post where you quoted me and called people who disliked Hillary "cowering wimps"

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Martina:
" You don't like left wing populists? Who the fuck cares? Bernie had to give an extra speech in Iowa today because there were so many people who couldn't get into the venue. There are lots of us, and we don't give a good God damn what you think.

You clearly know next to nothing about US politics."

If you believe the latter, though I'm not sure on what basis, perhaps you should not read my posts or respond to them. That way no one feels attacked or insulted.

[C0LLETTE]

You win. Good-bye.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Okay.

I have had it with saint fucking Bernie.

In 2016 huge focus was placed by journalists on Clinton’s past, and focused on the negative only. Clinton was considered the front runner, so Sanders did not get the same focus regarding his voting record and past actions.

Sanders voted 5x against the Brady Bill, he voted to allow firearms on Amtrak trains, he voted to create what is now the “Charleston loophole” that allowed Dylan Roof to purchase the weapon that killed 9 people in a church. He voted repeatedly against holding gun manufacturers liable for the destruction caused by their products; which is strange, because he supported similar protection measures for other industries like food manufacturers.

He relentlessly attacked Clinton over the 1994 Crime Bill, which is partially responsible for the mass incarceration crisis facing our country, when she wasn’t even in Congress at the time, and HE VOTED FOR IT. He voted to tank Senator Ted Kennedy’s compressive immigration bill in 2007.

Until 2009 he said the states should decide same-sex marriage, in the 70’s he wrote a disturbing essay about rape fantasies, there was sexual harassment in his campaign by staffers, which were payed off because he was “too busy” to handle it himself.

I want a President who is not an old white man with a past history that is going to be trashed by the repugnants, while the freaking Democrats stand about wringing their hands and cry “ but Trump is BAD!

I can see Trump being President again, because we cannot find some middle ground, and his Trolls love him.

God bless America

[Martina]

I think a lot of Americans know the Dems are owned by corporate interests. Someone said the Republicans serve the top 1% and the Democrats serve the top 10%. Most Conservative Americans have been bamboozled by the Republicans. But the rest of us are not idiots. We know the Dems don't represent our interests.

Your original post assumed people were served issues like Benghazi and the emails and cared about that. No one outside of the Fox News bubble gave a shit about that.

If people did respond to her personality, it was because they picked up on the hypocrisy so in evidence. And the arrogance.