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Old 04-25-2019, 03:07 PM   #1
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i just hope we all can remember that the true intentions of the Democratic Party is to elect Trump out, i hope the liberal base will keep in mind that Socialism is not a popular idea among moderates and will definitely fire up Trumps mob...i get very concerned that the AOC part of the party is bordering on the lunatic fringe if they feel an ultra liberal candidate will win the presidency..even with my limited IQ it's obvious he/she wouldn't. Don't get me wrong i'd love to be 28 and full of !8&^%! but (having unreachable ideals in this day of 22 trillion dollar debt) won't pay the bills or make me more free..so i'm voting moderate in the primary
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Bernie is the most popular candidate right now. I really don't think he reads like a scary radical, and the same populism, minus the racism and social Conservatism, is what got Trump elected. There are folks who voted Trump who are now supporting Bernie. No idea what the numbers are, but some are pretty vocal. People HATED Hillary. Not just didn't like or were unimpressed by. They HATED her. Some of that was sexism. But a lot of it was that she was in so many ways more of the same. I am not sure people are as hungry for change since Trump, and the Dems have appropriated the Bernie message (which is great), so we won't be in the same position again. I do think Bernie can reach mainstream voters. I don't have any concerns about that if he can make it through the primary. That, IMO, is a crapshoot. You never know what will happen out there.
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The Dem's hit the 20* mark to date.

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I'm on a few political email lists and somehow I end up with emails from a bunch of people like Bernie Sanders, Beto (like tons a day asking for money), Kamala Harris, etc.

Interesting today. Beto talking about how he needs money more than ever now that Biden is in the race,

Bernie - there's only one Bernie to save the day and the establishment is all against us.

Then there was Kamala Harris - my friend Joe Biden has entered the race. Great the more the merrier, I look forward to debating the issues.

Now that is smart and appeals to me. I think a Biden/Harris ticket would be great. I would rather she was the presidential candidate but I think Biden has a much better chance to beat Trump, but the two of them together would be great. I liked Biden's video. I think he can go for the jugular with Trump but still have something to offer beyond just negativity.

It's very likely that the emails were written by staff, but they are coming from the campaigns and represent the candidates. Two of them sounded like they were coming from small-minded, insecure people (and Bernie always thinks he's such a special snowflake). Kamala sounded confident and classy.
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I'm on a few political email lists and somehow I end up with emails from a bunch of people like Bernie Sanders, Beto (like tons a day asking for money), Kamala Harris, etc.

Interesting today. Beto talking about how he needs money more than ever now that Biden is in the race,

Bernie - there's only one Bernie to save the day and the establishment is all against us.

Then there was Kamala Harris - my friend Joe Biden has entered the race. Great the more the merrier, I look forward to debating the issues.

Now that is smart and appeals to me. I think a Biden/Harris ticket would be great. I would rather she was the presidential candidate but I think Biden has a much better chance to beat Trump, but the two of them together would be great. I liked Biden's video. I think he can go for the jugular with Trump but still have something to offer beyond just negativity.

It's very likely that the emails were written by staff, but they are coming from the campaigns and represent the candidates. Two of them sounded like they were coming from small-minded, insecure people (and Bernie always thinks he's such a special snowflake). Kamala sounded confident and classy.
I'm impressed by Harris, too. No, I don't think her terrible choices while she was DA disqualify her. I'm far more impressed by Elizabeth Warren and her dazzling array of specific plans. No, I don't care that she made a serious misstep by claiming Native American ancestry.

My fantasy ticket would be Warren/Harris. Yup, it's a fantasy, but I'll be unhappy if neither of those women ultimately end up on the 2020 Dem ticket.
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I'm impressed by Harris, too. No, I don't think her terrible choices while she was DA disqualify her. I'm far more impressed by Elizabeth Warren and her dazzling array of specific plans. No, I don't care that she made a serious misstep by claiming Native American ancestry.

My fantasy ticket would be Warren/Harris. Yup, it's a fantasy, but I'll be unhappy if neither of those women ultimately end up on the 2020 Dem ticket.
I like Warren too, but I don't think she can win.

But yeah Warren and Harris would be awesome.
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