2020 Presidential Election

Martina · 11-27-2019, 04:46 PM

Warren dropped by half. It's either her Medicare plan, which supports those a who think centrist policies will prevail, or just Mayor Pete doing better at her expense. Biden is still on top. Biden looks frail, and Pete is pretty cool. But if it's all about winning the general election, and you had to choose between those two, Biden would be the better bet. But Sanders is still number two, and polls show him doing better against Trump than Biden would. And he held his own in the same poll so I don't think this is a reaction to Medicare for all. Pete's just kicking ass out there.

charley · 11-27-2019, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Martina

Warren dropped by half. It's either her Medicare plan, which supports those a who think centrist policies will prevail, or just Mayor Pete doing better at her expense. Biden is still on top. Biden looks frail, and Pete is pretty cool. But if it's all about winning the general election, and you had to choose between those two, Biden would be the better bet. But Sanders is still number two, and polls show him doing better against Trump than Biden would. And he held his own in the same poll so I don't think this is a reaction to Medicare for all. Pete's just kicking ass out there.

My original thought was that Warren was doing well until she announced her policy - that is, eliminating choice for health care, and how she would finance it. That just won't wash for a large majority of Americans. After keeping an eye on polls and watching news, it still seems that that is the case. I wonder if it is possible now for Warren to backtrack and change her mind on that. It just seems so strange to me that these candidates seem to be entirely locked in their positions. Doesn't anyone talk to them and advise them that they might lose 'cause they won't budge on their positions? I mean, doesn't anyone worry enough that Trump might win a second term, unless some candidate rises to the top against him that is willing to understand that most Americans who vote Democrat have a moderate bent?

Pete is doing well 'cause of his "centrist"/moderate viewpoint and this appeals to many Americans, and this is also why Biden is still ahead in the polls (I still don't trust Pete).

JDeere · 11-27-2019, 09:58 PM

All I have to say is that I hope to hell people vote no matter who they vote for, I am seeing a huge downfall of young folks not voting even some older folks as well.

I dont know if they dont get that its a right they have to vote or they dont truly care.

Kätzchen · 12-11-2019, 11:48 PM

That was a pretty amazing Op-Ed over on CNN about Nancy Pelosi: If she ran for President, She'd Beat T---p.

And I would most certainly vote for her too.

Anybody else sick of seeing or hearing about or learning about the latest dastardly game-plan by McConnell and Graham, et al?

Go Team Pelosi, Team Schiff and Team Nadler. RIP Team Cummings (my heart is still broken over the loss of REP Cummings (D).

Nothing could make me happier than for long standing GOP senators to lose their long held seats of in the US Senate. That and Democrats winning in a landslide for President and in the US Senate and maintaining the US House of Representatives. That would make the year 2020 the best gift to the world, ever. Please oh Please, that's my wish for next year.

homoe · 12-12-2019, 08:51 AM

Republican Sen. Susan Collins has a well-funded Democrat prepping to challenge her next year. She has national women’s groups ready to attack her over her vote for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. And she’s a moderate facing an electorate that increasingly prioritizes purity. Still, the four-term Maine senator’s biggest hurdle to re-election may be the president of her own party.

President Trump’s potential impeachment in the House and subsequent trial in the Senate presents a distinct dilemma for Collins. Of the handful of Republicans senators facing re-election next year, she has done perhaps the most to keep a clear distance from Trump.

https://www.pressherald.com/2019/11/...ection-hurdle/

homoe · 12-12-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by homoe

Republican Sen. Susan Collins has a well-funded Democrat prepping to challenge her next year. She has national women’s groups ready to attack her over her vote for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. And she’s a moderate facing an electorate that increasingly prioritizes purity. Still, the four-term Maine senator’s biggest hurdle to re-election may be the president of her own party.

President Trump’s potential impeachment in the House and subsequent trial in the Senate presents a distinct dilemma for Collins. Of the handful of Republicans senators facing re-election next year, she has done perhaps the most to keep a clear distance from Trump.

https://www.pressherald.com/2019/11/...ection-hurdle/

Clearly her word is worthless! She's served four-term already!

dark_crystal · 12-13-2019, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by charley

My original thought was that Warren was doing well until she announced her policy - that is, eliminating choice for health care, and how she would finance it. That just won't wash for a large majority of Americans. After keeping an eye on polls and watching news, it still seems that that is the case. I wonder if it is possible now for Warren to backtrack and change her mind on that. It just seems so strange to me that these candidates seem to be entirely locked in their positions. Doesn't anyone talk to them and advise them that they might lose 'cause they won't budge on their positions? I mean, doesn't anyone worry enough that Trump might win a second term, unless some candidate rises to the top against him that is willing to understand that most Americans who vote Democrat have a moderate bent?

Pete is doing well 'cause of his "centrist"/moderate viewpoint and this appeals to many Americans, and this is also why Biden is still ahead in the polls (I still don't trust Pete).

Warren lost me with her waffling on Medicare for All. I switched my monthly donation from her to Castro. At this point i am only donating to Castro and Sanders.

C0LLETTE · 02-03-2020, 05:45 PM

Anybody remember George McGovern?

"In the general election on November 7, 1972, the McGovern–Shriver ticket suffered a 61 percent to 37 percent defeat to Nixon – at the time, the second biggest landslide in American history, with an Electoral College total of 520 to 17. McGovern's two electoral vote victories came in Massachusetts and the District of Columbia, and he failed to win his home state of South Dakota Over the nation as a whole he carried a mere 135 counties. At just over four percent of the nation's counties, McGovern's county wins remain the fewest by almost a factor of three for any major-party nominee." (Thanks Wikipedia).

Nixon won.

I'm sure there are still some Democrats around who remember that idealistic disaster.

homoe · 02-04-2020, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Anybody remember George McGovern?

"In the general election on November 7, 1972, the McGovern–Shriver ticket suffered a 61 percent to 37 percent defeat to Nixon – at the time, the second biggest landslide in American history, with an Electoral College total of 520 to 17. McGovern's two electoral vote victories came in Massachusetts and the District of Columbia, and he failed to win his home state of South Dakota Over the nation as a whole he carried a mere 135 counties. At just over four percent of the nation's counties, McGovern's county wins remain the fewest by almost a factor of three for any major-party nominee." (Thanks Wikipedia).

Nixon won.

I'm sure there are still some Democrats around who remember that idealistic disaster.

Indeed, I am old enough to remember this!

C0LLETTE · 02-04-2020, 10:54 AM

ok then, homoe...lol

Then you also probably appreciate the perils of being too far ahead of the electorate. They don't seem to favour fascists or socialists but if that's the only choice they are less scared of fascists...and they are easier to salute so you can show your loyalty and stay "safe".

nhplowboi · 02-04-2020, 12:22 PM

Am I just a suspicious sort? Does anyone else think it is odd or just me that BOTH the app failed to work at the Iowa Caucus and THEN the help phone line would not answer? Seems like both those things needed to run the Caucus could easily be breached by anyone with a little knowledge. Also how is it Donald has his highest poll rating after his actions caused the downing of an airliner with all lives lost and serious injury to 64 soldiers in Iraq?!

11-27-2019, 04:46 PM	#1
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,286 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	Warren dropped by half. It's either her Medicare plan, which supports those a who think centrist policies will prevail, or just Mayor Pete doing better at her expense. Biden is still on top. Biden looks frail, and Pete is pretty cool. But if it's all about winning the general election, and you had to choose between those two, Biden would be the better bet. But Sanders is still number two, and polls show him doing better against Trump than Biden would. And he held his own in the same poll so I don't think this is a reaction to Medicare for all. Pete's just kicking ass out there. __________________ "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up" - Lily Tomlin

12-11-2019, 11:48 PM	#4
Kätzchen Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, please. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow ツ Posts: 16,053 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,111 Thanked 33,509 Times in 10,639 Posts Rep Power: 21474868	That was a pretty amazing Op-Ed over on CNN about Nancy Pelosi: If she ran for President, She'd Beat T---p. And I would most certainly vote for her too. Anybody else sick of seeing or hearing about or learning about the latest dastardly game-plan by McConnell and Graham, et al? Go Team Pelosi, Team Schiff and Team Nadler. RIP Team Cummings (my heart is still broken over the loss of REP Cummings (D). Nothing could make me happier than for long standing GOP senators to lose their long held seats of in the US Senate. That and Democrats winning in a landslide for President and in the US Senate and maintaining the US House of Representatives. That would make the year 2020 the best gift to the world, ever. Please oh Please, that's my wish for next year. __________________ “In the end, it’s not about how much stuff you have, it’s about how many hearts you touched,” — Iva Ursano.

12-12-2019, 08:51 AM	#5
homoe Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: ..... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 30 minute ferry ride from Seattle Posts: 38,565 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 20,811 Thanked 33,558 Times in 14,919 Posts Rep Power: 21474890	Trump may be Maine Sen. Susan Collins’ biggest re-election hurdle Republican Sen. Susan Collins has a well-funded Democrat prepping to challenge her next year. She has national women’s groups ready to attack her over her vote for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. And she’s a moderate facing an electorate that increasingly prioritizes purity. Still, the four-term Maine senator’s biggest hurdle to re-election may be the president of her own party. President Trump’s potential impeachment in the House and subsequent trial in the Senate presents a distinct dilemma for Collins. Of the handful of Republicans senators facing re-election next year, she has done perhaps the most to keep a clear distance from Trump. https://www.pressherald.com/2019/11/...ection-hurdle/

02-03-2020, 05:45 PM	#8
C0LLETTE Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Depends on the day. Preferred Pronoun?: "I" and "we" Relationship Status: Very good. Thank you for asking. Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 11,501 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,676 Thanked 15,175 Times in 4,341 Posts Rep Power: 21474860	Anybody remember George McGovern? "In the general election on November 7, 1972, the McGovern–Shriver ticket suffered a 61 percent to 37 percent defeat to Nixon – at the time, the second biggest landslide in American history, with an Electoral College total of 520 to 17. McGovern's two electoral vote victories came in Massachusetts and the District of Columbia, and he failed to win his home state of South Dakota Over the nation as a whole he carried a mere 135 counties. At just over four percent of the nation's counties, McGovern's county wins remain the fewest by almost a factor of three for any major-party nominee." (Thanks Wikipedia). Nixon won. I'm sure there are still some Democrats around who remember that idealistic disaster. __________________ ______________________________ ______________________________

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02-04-2020, 12:22 PM	#11
nhplowboi Member How Do You Identify?: FTM Preferred Pronoun?: male pronouns Relationship Status: Divorcee Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,327 Thanked 3,886 Times in 825 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Am I just a suspicious sort? Does anyone else think it is odd or just me that BOTH the app failed to work at the Iowa Caucus and THEN the help phone line would not answer? Seems like both those things needed to run the Caucus could easily be breached by anyone with a little knowledge. Also how is it Donald has his highest poll rating after his actions caused the downing of an airliner with all lives lost and serious injury to 64 soldiers in Iraq?!