Coronavirus ~ COVID-19

Lyte · 04-21-2020, 10:33 PM

Responding in general...

From one too many microbiology classes, but not an expert on coronaviruses, you'll have antibodies related to the virus (the strain) that made a home in your body. Like most viruses, like the flu, the lil fuckers change, mutate, a lot. A while back, I heard/read somewhere that there were already three different strains found in Washington state. Are they similar enough to each other that they will be killed off by your new antibodies? I don't think anyone knows yet.

A few weeks ago I heard reporters, and I think one doctor say YES, you will have immunity. I was immediately, WTF?!

Since then... I've been avoiding anything on TV. For the most part, I'm reading what WHO releases and the John Hopkins newsletter.

Has anyone else heard of any other strains of this coronavirus popping up?

charley · 04-22-2020, 05:57 AM

The CDC has issued a warning that the 2nd wave will probably occur during this winter in the U.S., and will most likely be “even more difficult” coinciding with seasonal flu). Obviously, by that time, people will be travelling again between the U.S. and Canada, etc., and it will affect us Canadians as well.

"And in a double blow for the prospect of ending the coronavirus pandemic, a US trial of the controversial treatment Donald Trump has referred to as “like a miracle” has produced poor results." ... "Also on Tuesday, a malaria drug frequently touted by Trump for treating Covid-19 showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in US veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine than those given standard care, researchers reported."

The CDC "was also asked about increasing protests in a number of US states against stay-at-home orders from governors, with demonstrations coordinated on social media and evidence of backing by rightwing figures and powerful Trump allies. And about calls for states to be “liberated” from restrictions, which Donald Trump has himself echoed, Redfield said in the interview: “It’s not helpful.” "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...oroquine-trial

Jedi · 04-22-2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyte

Responding in general...

From one too many microbiology classes, but not an expert on coronaviruses, you'll have antibodies related to the virus (the strain) that made a home in your body. Like most viruses, like the flu, the lil fuckers change, mutate, a lot. A while back, I heard/read somewhere that there were already three different strains found in Washington state. Are they similar enough to each other that they will be killed off by your new antibodies? I don't think anyone knows yet.

A few weeks ago I heard reporters, and I think one doctor say YES, you will have immunity. I was immediately, WTF?!

Since then... I've been avoiding anything on TV. For the most part, I'm reading what WHO releases and the John Hopkins newsletter.

Has anyone else heard of any other strains of this coronavirus popping up?

AS far as I know there was L strain and S strain of Covid-19. The thing about this coronavirus is that it mutates. One being more aggressive than the other. Not one news source has spoken much about the strains since then.

~ocean · 04-22-2020, 04:25 PM

the heck w/ where's WALDO ~~ I want to know where is Dr. Fauci ?

Orema · 04-22-2020, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ~ocean

the heck w/ where's WALDO ~~ I want to know where is Dr. Fauci ?

Trump has shut him down. I’m watching Trump’s daily briefing and am not sure if Fauci is in the room. Trump probably has him in the corner if he is in the room.

The shills, Dr. Deborah Birx and Dr Robert Redfield, can’t even keep a steady eye as they try to sell Trump’s bullshit.

And the press needs to step up their game and question Trump harder. At the very least, they need to follow up on a colleague’s question when Trump rudely refuses to answer.

GeorgiaMa'am · 04-22-2020, 07:12 PM

From the BBC World News:

BBC Announcer: "The top infectious disease expert in America, Anthony Fauci, has urged a careful and measured approach to re-opening the economy, to avoid a resurgence of the coronavirus."

Dr. Fauci: "The urge we all have to get out there and get it over with, let's get back to normal, for a lot of good reasons because there's a lot of suffering economic and otherwise in this country because of that. I plead with the American public, with the governors, with the mayors, with the people with responsibility. Although I know one has the need to leapfrog over things, don't do that. Do it in a measured way."

BBC Announcer: "Dr. Fauci said there was no doubt coronavirus would return later in the year but the country would be much better prepared. After the same news conference, President Trump insisted that if coronavirus came back, it would be in smaller outbreaks that could be contained."

nycfem · 04-22-2020, 08:18 PM

It has been a hard week here in the NY/NJ area. Two longtime members of the Butch Femme community passed away: GreyingButch and LeftWriteFemme. I had just had a very special zoom seder for Passover with LeftWriteFemme, and she was so happy and talkative. I'm glad we stayed on so long. I never thought it would be the last time I interacted with her.

Teddybear · 04-22-2020, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nycfem

It has been a hard week here in the NY/NJ area. Two longtime members of the Butch Femme community passed away: GreyingButch and LeftWriteFemme. I had just had a very special zoom seder for Passover with LeftWriteFemme, and she was so happy and talkative. I'm glad we stayed on so long. I never thought it would be the last time I interacted with her.

She was such an awesome person that will be missed. She and I spoke every month. I was just thinking today it was getting close to she and I to have our talk.

Covid-19 is such a bastard stealing the best of us.

Tommi · 04-23-2020, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nycfem

It has been a hard week here in the NY/NJ area. Two longtime members of the Butch Femme community passed away: GreyingButch and LeftWriteFemme. I had just had a very special zoom seder for Passover with LeftWriteFemme, and she was so happy and talkative. I'm glad we stayed on so long. I never thought it would be the last time I interacted with her.

This doesn’t seem real. Glad to know Sherrie was with you virtually for Seder. That would have meant a lot to her.

Get in touch with those you think about. You just never know.
Sad day for so many.

Zimmeh · 04-23-2020, 09:02 AM

How very sad! I remember reading some of her works in this group. May she Rest In Peace and her family find peace.

From my family to hers,

Zimmeh

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Originally Posted by nycfem

It has been a hard week here in the NY/NJ area. Two longtime members of the Butch Femme community passed away: GreyingButch and LeftWriteFemme. I had just had a very special zoom seder for Passover with LeftWriteFemme, and she was so happy and talkative. I'm glad we stayed on so long. I never thought it would be the last time I interacted with her.

homoe · 04-23-2020, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nycfem

It has been a hard week here in the NY/NJ area. Two longtime members of the Butch Femme community passed away: GreyingButch and LeftWriteFemme. I had just had a very special zoom seder for Passover with LeftWriteFemme, and she was so happy and talkative. I'm glad we stayed on so long. I never thought it would be the last time I interacted with her.

So very sorry to hear about GreyingButch and LeftWriteFemme.

I didn't really know either, but I always enjoyed LeftWrite's postings.

GeorgiaMa'am · 04-22-2020, 08:18 PM

The BBC World News story in the above post was transcribed from the BBC World News which aired at 9:00 PM EDT on BBC Radio World Service UK.

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Transcribed from the BBC World News which aired at 10:00 PM EDT on BBC Radio World Service UK.

BBC Announcer: "President Trump has played down the dangers of a second wave of coronavirus cases later in the year. He was contradicted by his top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci, who said there was no doubt the virus would return but the country would be much better prepared. Dr. Fauci said the program of people physically distancing should be the basis of any plan to re-open the economy."

Dr. Fauci: "The program is not one that is gonna be 'Turn the lights on in America, we're finished.' We're not. We have to proceed in a very careful, measured way. And if you look at the guidelines, they are careful, and they are measured."

Lyte · 04-22-2020, 08:39 PM

Indeed. I find the lack of coverage re multiple strains surprising, and a bit suspicious. Why news outlets aren't mentioning it, I don't know but it's so odd that it adds to my concern.

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Originally Posted by Jedi

AS far as I know there was L strain and S strain of Covid-19. The thing about this coronavirus is that it mutates. One being more aggressive than the other. Not one news source has spoken much about the strains since then.

charley · 04-23-2020, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyte

Indeed. I find the lack of coverage re multiple strains surprising, and a bit suspicious. Why news outlets aren't mentioning it, I don't know but it's so odd that it adds to my concern.

I have no background in microbiology, so I googled and found a fairly decent & helpful explanation of "strains/mutations" of Covid-19 in this interview by a CTV news reporter with Jonathan Jarry of the McGill Office for Science and Society: (particular question re: "strains" begins at @ 1:25)

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1933809

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