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Old 11-18-2020, 11:40 AM   #1
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My father, who passed in 2013 at age 84, used to talk to me about the concept of "sacrifice" and how our current society no longer knows how to, remembers how to, or is willing to practice the act of sacrifice for the common good.

When 9/11 happened and our nation went to war on terrorism, my dad told me that, with a few exceptions, it was nearly impossible to perceive or see any kind of willingness or ability to sacrifice for the common good, as was so evident in the WWII generation. If one looked at the U.S. after 9/11 happened, it was nearly impossible to see any kind of visual evidence of sacrifice, aside from our military members and their families. The sacrifice made during the WWII years was called "pulling together" as a country, and it has been widely recognized as one of the major reasons that we, as a nation, were able to prevail in a war that was fought in two (2) theaters, European and Pacific. In addition to the bombing attack on Pearl Harbor, this country was just crawling out from under the horror and deprivations of the Great Depression and had to, by necessity, "hit the ground running" in order to save our country and our democracy.

This morning, I was surprised to see the following op-ed on the front page of cnn.com. It is about the concept of national sacrifice and is exactly what my father used to talk to me about. We need to bring this spirit of "pulling together" and "sacrifice" in order to beat this deadly enemy, COVID-19. If we don't, we're doomed. Most of the Greatest Generation has passed into history now. We need to rediscover the spirit, tenacity and sacrifice of The Greatest Generation and, once again, pull together as one nation and defeat COVID-19 before it defeats us, our nation and our democracy.

Here's the link to that op-ed. It is an excellent read:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/opini...mer/index.html

~Theo~
"...recognition of personal sacrifice for community benefit," (CNN op-ed author Nicole Hemmer). I know this well. My parents, although my 92 y.o. dad died last February of this year) always talked about personal sacrifice during The Great Depression and throughout WW2. Nearly every night they inculcated these tenets and values into our dinner time story telling.

Excellent op-ed, Theo.
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Maybe this post is better placed here.


.. The tragedy of freedom paired with a weak concept of commonality.


I keep reading long complex dense jargon filled paragraphs, full of the minutiae that political junkies love but the massive central conflicts just get buried.

Thing is, "political" differences reduced to whether this dam should be built or this tax should be reduced/raised miss the point.

Thing is" what is it you feel/believe about your relationship to your local community. your state. your country, the rest of the world.

Thing is "who am I in all this?"

Till we start going there, we will forever be electing, supporting, Fascist leaders who push an "Us First" agendae...and we will be forever electing them, every 60 -70 yrs,( a generation or so), after tiny burst of "feel good" liberalism. that are regrettably short-lived cause we never stopped to figure out "why".
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The latest season of Grey's Anatomy is devoted to dealing with Covid-19.

Anybody else watching it? Here's a teaser trailer-clip I found of a scene in the ER moment, from a recent episode.

I'm gonna catch up one day.

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I am so sad. I don’t know where this should go, so I’m sorry if misplaced.

One of my friends (not here cis male), is Covid positive. Tommy is a bit older, and has been on dialysis for 7 years. The really sad part is that he was finally on the transplant list for January. Tommy has been to the hospital ER 3 x where they treat him and send him home with oxygen because they have no beds available.

Tommy is in a gig band that plays weekends in bars, and he said he would rather die than give up playing drums. Now his band is infected, his brother and brother’s girlfriend, and God know how many other people. When I called him last I BEGGED him to wear a mask and isolate, but he said he didn’t believe Covid was real, and POS Trump said masks were not doing anything.

So sad...
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I am so sad. I don’t know where this should go, so I’m sorry if misplaced.

One of my friends (not here cis male), is Covid positive. Tommy is a bit older, and has been on dialysis for 7 years. The really sad part is that he was finally on the transplant list for January. Tommy has been to the hospital ER 3 x where they treat him and send him home with oxygen because they have no beds available.

Tommy is in a gig band that plays weekends in bars, and he said he would rather die than give up playing drums. Now his band is infected, his brother and brother’s girlfriend, and God know how many other people. When I called him last I BEGGED him to wear a mask and isolate, but he said he didn’t believe Covid was real, and POS Trump said masks were not doing anything.

So sad...
I am sorry about your friend and all the people around him ~ bad leadership we have in the president. You could share your story with a local newspaper or call a TV station this is what people need to hear to take responsibility for their own lives. (((((( pacific ))))) prayers for you and them.
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Hey Donald.......it is now 16 days past November 3rd and guess what? We are still talking about Covid! You big orange fibber. God rest all the souls your lack of governance failed to help.
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It finally happened - I am pretty certain I've got COVID. I haven't had the test yet, but my boy tested positive yesterday. I've got the symptoms.

We were all so careful! I guess it's just a matter of time.
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