~Butch is a Noun~

tiggs · 06-18-2010, 08:47 AM

I haven't read 'Butch is a noun' but from what everyone is saying I think I may have to pick up a copy!

One book that truly touched me was Leslie Fienbergs 'Stone Butch Blues'. I had picked up a copy of the book because of someone I worked with at the time. This was before I had ID'd as femme or had a real understanding of what butch or femme even was. To say the least the book touched my heart. There were so many 'oh my gosh' and 'light bulb' moments when I read the book that I simply couldn't put it down. When I finally finished reading the book I cried and immediately went on the internet to Hys site just so that I could leave a little note to say how much the book had touched me.

It wasn't long after reading the book that I found BF communities on-line and in doing so found myself. Thank gosh for 'ah ha' moments.

Toughy · 06-18-2010, 04:21 PM

I actually need to rectify something.

Bear prefers the pronouns ze and hir. My apologies for using 'he' instead of the preferred ze.

tiggs · 06-18-2010, 05:58 PM

I hope I don't offend anyone and please excuse my ignorance in this but can someone explain something for me?

I have seen and understand Hy and Hym and so on lots but haven't seen ze before, is it gender based somehow? or where does the preferrence for it come from?

Again no disrepect at all intended just would like to understand where/how it is used.

Thanks a bunch

amiyesiam · 06-18-2010, 06:07 PM

Read it when it came out. Great book, recommend it~

adorable · 06-18-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggs

I hope I don't offend anyone and please excuse my ignorance in this but can someone explain something for me?

I have seen and understand Hy and Hym and so on lots but haven't seen ze before, is it gender based somehow? or where does the preferrence for it come from?

Again no disrepect at all intended just would like to understand where/how it is used.

Thanks a bunch

Raises hand!! I can answer...now that I read the book.lol. It is a gender neutral pronoun for butches who do not identify as male or female. But, in the English language, there aren't pronouns for anything other than male or female. Ze is a butch pronoun that works for some and feels more true to their insides.

tiggs · 06-18-2010, 06:25 PM

ah ha! thank you so much adorable!

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amiyesiam Senior Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: she/they Relationship Status: single Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: pa Posts: 2,703 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17,488 Thanked 10,135 Times in 2,161 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	Read it when it came out. Great book, recommend it~ __________________ A year from now you will wish that you started today~Karen Lamb

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06-18-2010, 08:47 AM	#1
tiggs Member How Do You Identify?: femme submissive Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: married and collared to Converse Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: canada Posts: 359 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,456 Thanked 726 Times in 248 Posts Rep Power: 2288328	I haven't read 'Butch is a noun' but from what everyone is saying I think I may have to pick up a copy! One book that truly touched me was Leslie Fienbergs 'Stone Butch Blues'. I had picked up a copy of the book because of someone I worked with at the time. This was before I had ID'd as femme or had a real understanding of what butch or femme even was. To say the least the book touched my heart. There were so many 'oh my gosh' and 'light bulb' moments when I read the book that I simply couldn't put it down. When I finally finished reading the book I cried and immediately went on the internet to Hys site just so that I could leave a little note to say how much the book had touched me. It wasn't long after reading the book that I found BF communities on-line and in doing so found myself. Thank gosh for 'ah ha' moments.