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Jet · 06-29-2010, 06:29 PM

Triple Feature!

Ransom
Suddenly
Ths Desperate Hours!

cinderella · 06-29-2010, 07:12 PM

Jet, is this on today? I haven't checked the schedule?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

Triple Feature!

Ransom
Suddenly
Ths Desperate Hours!

cinderella · 06-29-2010, 07:14 PM

Lord, I've so many films on both DVD & VHS, and don't know what to watch. TCM seems dismal these days...wonder who the hell is doing the programming!

Jet · 06-29-2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderella

Jet, is this on today? I haven't checked the schedule?

no i just thought i'd mix them together

dark_crystal · 07-05-2010, 04:58 PM

Hi Carmin! i thought i might join the discussion over here if i can...unfortunately i am still limited to the films that my library owns on DVD and the three Jet mentioned above do not exist in the catalog.

and i can't even add them b/c we just cleaned out our materials budget! No collection development funds till OCTOBER! (the City Manager was freaking out that we still have so much cash this late in the fiscal cycle and implying we must not need it and that other departments [read- police] might deserve it more)

Jet · 07-05-2010, 05:38 PM

TCM REMINDER

Featured Actor for July
Gregory Peck

My personal favorites:

To Kill a Mockingbird
The Paradine Case
The Big Country
Gentleman's Agreement

dark_crystal · 07-05-2010, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

TCM REMINDER

Featured Actor for July
Gregory Peck

My personal favorites:

To Kill a Mockingbird
The Paradine Case
The Big Country
Gentleman's Agreement

Well i know i can get TKAM at least! The book is having a big anniversary this year...i will cross my fingers on the others! Thank you!

dark_crystal · 07-06-2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

Well i know i can get TKAM at least! The book is having a big anniversary this year...i will cross my fingers on the others! Thank you!

i got Gentleman's Agreement! It looks really good! I have handwork i need to do tonight so it's a perfect evening to watch a movie.

dark_crystal · 07-06-2010, 08:54 AM

Oh! I also got The Thin Man. I have seen it once before years ago but all i remember is the martinis

always2late · 07-06-2010, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

TCM REMINDER

Featured Actor for July
Gregory Peck

My personal favorites:

To Kill a Mockingbird
The Paradine Case
The Big Country
Gentleman's Agreement

I LOVE The Paradine Case! And, of course, To Kill a Mockingbird....both were on last night

Jet · 07-06-2010, 06:42 PM

I watched Gregory Peck last night, I really enjoyed it.

One movie he did that does bother me is The Boys from Brazil. I'm sensitive to anything antisemtic or fascist especially Josef Mengele.

But Peck and Laurence Olivier (as Simon Weisenthal or from the foundation, I forget) deliver great performances. It's nice to see two giants in one movie.
It's just kind of weird to see Gregory Peck play a maniac.

See ya at the movies fellow classic cinema comrades.

dark_crystal · 07-07-2010, 12:10 PM

I loved Gentleman's Agreement!

My very very first thought was that I found the foley intrusive and noticed some repetition- same horn honk pattern on two different street scenes- but the lighting was amazing! Esp. when Phil visits Mr. Minify for the first time and you can see the shadow of a plant on the back wall...

I liked the foreshadowing re: her weakness of character conveyed in Kathy's cocktail-party semi-mocking, half-defensive self-analysis

I wonder if, the first two times we see Ma, she is wearing those jarring loud prints to confer a vitality that she will subsequently lose? And is that why the makeup artist allowed more face-shine when everyone else was in that gorgeous matte makeup b&w films always have? If so i am not sure it was successful...

The whole marriage talk seemed really sudden to me- i get that the mores of the time left no other avenue once you swapped spit with a 'nice girl,' but she was a divorcee. Maybe time was telescoped and i missed it.

I love the secretary but her reaction when she hears about the change in hiring policy so totally reminds me of how closeted queers will show hostility to out queers (this has happened to me).

And the off-hand revelation about said hiring policies- could have been the major conflict and i am not sure it shouldn't have been, i felt like the story bogged down for maybe just a moment after Dave showed up.

So shocking the way he grabbed Miss Wales's arm in their last scene together- TOTALLY could not do that now!

That final scene is just gorgeous, and once again i am struck by how the limitations of b&w really brought out production creativity, e.g. the checkered floor outside Kathy's apartment.

All in all a really gorgeous and touching movie! I'm glad i got to see it! thanks for the recommendation!

Jet · 07-07-2010, 02:27 PM

To be honest, I haven't seen Gentleman's Agreement for some time, but I do have it. So it's hard for me to comment on production. I do know that Elia Kazan won as best director. I'm guessing what you're seeing is Kazan's gritty realism, which was his signature such as On The Waterfront. and Streetcar Named Desire.

I'm more taken with its antisemetic theme in post-war and the lengths Philip Greene goes through to prove antisemitisim and bigotry in the United States. Highly-sensitive stuff after the liberation of the Nazi death camps just a couple of years earlier.

The woman who plays Greene's mother (I forget her name, I think its Anne Revere) was later black-balled in the MacArthy hearings on communism in 1952; it ruined her career. Kazan, on the other hand, was a witness and basically lost respect and freinds in Hollywood after snitching on them.

See ya at the movies.

dark_crystal · 07-07-2010, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

To be honest, I haven't seen Gentleman's Agreement for some time, but I do have it. So it's hard for me to comment on production. I do know that Elia Kazan won as best director. I'm guessing what you're seeing is Kazan's gritty realism, which was his signature such as On The Waterfront. and Streetcar Named Desire.

I'm more taken with its antisemetic theme in post-war and the lengths Philip Greene goes through to prove antisemitisim and bigotry in the United States. Highly-sensitive stuff after the liberation of the Nazi death camps just a couple of years earlier.

The woman who plays Greene's mother (I forget her name, I think its Anne Revere) was later black-balled in the MacArthy hearings on communism in 1952; it ruined her career. Kazan, on the other hand, was a witness and basically lost respect and freinds in Hollywood after snitching on them.

See ya at the movies.

I remember when he got the 1999 Lifetime Achievement Oscar how half the audience wouldn't stand up!

Jet · 07-14-2010, 09:51 PM

Stanwyck and Suspense!

Sorry Wrong Number
Double Indemnity
The File on Thelma Jordon
Jeopardy
The Two Mrs. Carrolls

Venus007 · 07-18-2010, 02:06 PM

Just finished watching "Mr Hobbs Takes a Vacation"
I absolutely LOVE the script, it was so witty Nunnally Johnson wrote it based on a novel by Edward Streeter. I am a very big Jimmy Stewart fan and he was great in this, he always reminds me of my Pop so his movies make me nostalgic.
One of the things I really like about movies such as this is the sense of honor the characters have, even when things are screwball there is still integrity and honor.

dark_crystal · 07-18-2010, 03:26 PM

we (the library) didn't have any of the "Stanwyck and Suspense" titles so i had to settle for plain old Stanwyck- specifically, The Lady Eve.
I thought the acting was really amazing right from the very first line- one second i was laughing up my sleeve at the hokiness of the "Amazon" set and the next thing i knew i was totally swept up in the story! And what an unusual story! The plot suprised me over and over.

i do not really find stanwyck beautiful, but in some scenes she was charming- esp. the one with her mirror and her narration of the scene behind her.

I also didn't like her wardrobe. I am assuming within the context of the time and place it was "the mode," will have to research. Shocked by the bare midriff at dinner!

Ways the plot surprised me: did not expect her to admit she was in love as quickly as she did, but it made sense once i realized the boat story was only half of what was going to happen.

Sir Alfred felt kinda shoehorned in...wish his existence had been foreshadowed in earlier dialogue...prolly it was but thos frames fell to editing

LOVE LOVE LOVE Pike, Sr. and was utterly charmed by the pre-party chaos at Pike Manor.

Also: "C'mon let's out on the feed bag"??? WIN

Was totally not expecting the wedding to actually happen, and then to happen uninterrupted. In the last couple of decades it has become a cliche for the wrong people to get to the altar and have the climax occur before the vows can be finished...SO sick of it

The sight gags are I guess the reason why Wikipeida and IMDB call this a "screwball romance," but to me they felt superflous...although i did like the "pull in your head, We're coming to a tunnel" sign

my overall impression was "WOW! Really original!" Two thumbs up!

Martina · 07-20-2010, 03:17 PM

i watched "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison" night before last. i love Deborah Kerr. And Robert Mitchum. There are some sweet scenes. Directed by John Huston.

Jet · 07-20-2010, 03:25 PM

I'm done with classic movies for a time. I'm sick of them. Nobody really cares anyway and its a very select topic that few know about.

dark_crystal · 07-31-2010, 02:20 PM

Jezebel (Bette Davis, 1938)

IMDB Summary:

Set in antebellum New Orleans during the early 1850's, this film follows Julie Marsden through her quest for social redemption on her own terms. Julie is a beautiful and free spirited, rapacious Southern belle who is sure of herself and controlling of her fiancé Preston Dillard, a successful young banker. Julie's sensitive but domineering personality--she does not want so much to hurt as to assert her independence--forces a wedge between Preston and herself. To win him back, she plays North against South amid a deadly epidemic of yellow fever which claims a surprising victim.

Personal Impressions:

There is a scene about fifteen minutes in, at the dressmakers, where they get Jule (Davis) out of the white ballgown she's in fittings for and you see that she is sitting knees apart on a stool under a crinoline cage- that's a brilliant shot

the perv in me was turned on by this quote in the next scene:

"None of my business anyhow, but speaking abstractly, and nothing personal intended, your generation don't understand the darlings...Woman, sir, is a chalice-- a frail, delicate chalice to be cherished and protected, ..
..Think your father would have allowed the lady of his choice to come surging into his business?"

"What would he have done?"

"He'd have cut him a hickory and flailed the living daylights out of her, then helped put lard on her welts and bought her a diamond brooch- That's what he'dhave done, and she'd have loved it."

and my Axis 2 issues liked this:

"You're wrong. That dress could cause trouble. Folks would keenly resent you coming to the ball in it."
"They're petty and narrow-minded."
"They got rules, and they go by them, same as you and i."
"Do you prefer to go by your rules?"
"I always have, miss julie."
"Then I'm sorry I troubled you"

(i am totally into structure, rules, protocols, traditions. it is odd b/c i am seen (and see myself) as a non-conformist- but any refusal to conform to a particular set of guidelines can always be traced back to a conflict with a higher-level set that may or may not be self-constructed.)

Quibbly Quibbles:

the movie could have started when they got to Halcyon Plantation...everything that came before that is re-explained in the first plantation scene.

The mosquito bite that gave Preston yellow fever was the only mosquito bite in the movie...i wish a couple of other people could have been shown slapping mosquitos earlier in the film or mosquitos could have been mentioned in the dialogue somewhere...it just felt heavy-handed to me

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07-18-2010, 03:26 PM	#17
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,550 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	The Lady Eve. we (the library) didn't have any of the "Stanwyck and Suspense" titles so i had to settle for plain old Stanwyck- specifically, The Lady Eve. I thought the acting was really amazing right from the very first line- one second i was laughing up my sleeve at the hokiness of the "Amazon" set and the next thing i knew i was totally swept up in the story! And what an unusual story! The plot suprised me over and over. i do not really find stanwyck beautiful, but in some scenes she was charming- esp. the one with her mirror and her narration of the scene behind her. I also didn't like her wardrobe. I am assuming within the context of the time and place it was "the mode," will have to research. Shocked by the bare midriff at dinner! Ways the plot surprised me: did not expect her to admit she was in love as quickly as she did, but it made sense once i realized the boat story was only half of what was going to happen. Sir Alfred felt kinda shoehorned in...wish his existence had been foreshadowed in earlier dialogue...prolly it was but thos frames fell to editing LOVE LOVE LOVE Pike, Sr. and was utterly charmed by the pre-party chaos at Pike Manor. Also: "C'mon let's out on the feed bag"??? WIN Was totally not expecting the wedding to actually happen, and then to happen uninterrupted. In the last couple of decades it has become a cliche for the wrong people to get to the altar and have the climax occur before the vows can be finished...SO sick of it The sight gags are I guess the reason why Wikipeida and IMDB call this a "screwball romance," but to me they felt superflous...although i did like the "pull in your head, We're coming to a tunnel" sign my overall impression was "WOW! Really original!" Two thumbs up!

07-31-2010, 02:20 PM	#20
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,550 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Jezebel (Bette Davis, 1938) Jezebel (Bette Davis, 1938) IMDB Summary: Set in antebellum New Orleans during the early 1850's, this film follows Julie Marsden through her quest for social redemption on her own terms. Julie is a beautiful and free spirited, rapacious Southern belle who is sure of herself and controlling of her fiancé Preston Dillard, a successful young banker. Julie's sensitive but domineering personality--she does not want so much to hurt as to assert her independence--forces a wedge between Preston and herself. To win him back, she plays North against South amid a deadly epidemic of yellow fever which claims a surprising victim. Personal Impressions: There is a scene about fifteen minutes in, at the dressmakers, where they get Jule (Davis) out of the white ballgown she's in fittings for and you see that she is sitting knees apart on a stool under a crinoline cage- that's a brilliant shot the perv in me was turned on by this quote in the next scene: "None of my business anyhow, but speaking abstractly, and nothing personal intended, your generation don't understand the darlings...Woman, sir, is a chalice-- a frail, delicate chalice to be cherished and protected, .. ..Think your father would have allowed the lady of his choice to come surging into his business?" "What would he have done?" "He'd have cut him a hickory and flailed the living daylights out of her, then helped put lard on her welts and bought her a diamond brooch- That's what he'dhave done, and she'd have loved it." and my Axis 2 issues liked this: "You're wrong. That dress could cause trouble. Folks would keenly resent you coming to the ball in it." "They're petty and narrow-minded." "They got rules, and they go by them, same as you and i." "Do you prefer to go by your rules?" "I always have, miss julie." "Then I'm sorry I troubled you" (i am totally into structure, rules, protocols, traditions. it is odd b/c i am seen (and see myself) as a non-conformist- but any refusal to conform to a particular set of guidelines can always be traced back to a conflict with a higher-level set that may or may not be self-constructed.) Quibbly Quibbles: the movie could have started when they got to Halcyon Plantation...everything that came before that is re-explained in the first plantation scene. The mosquito bite that gave Preston yellow fever was the only mosquito bite in the movie...i wish a couple of other people could have been shown slapping mosquitos earlier in the film or mosquitos could have been mentioned in the dialogue somewhere...it just felt heavy-handed to me

06-29-2010, 06:29 PM	#1
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07-05-2010, 04:58 PM	#5
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,550 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Hi Carmin! i thought i might join the discussion over here if i can...unfortunately i am still limited to the films that my library owns on DVD and the three Jet mentioned above do not exist in the catalog. and i can't even add them b/c we just cleaned out our materials budget! No collection development funds till OCTOBER! (the City Manager was freaking out that we still have so much cash this late in the fiscal cycle and implying we must not need it and that other departments [read- police] might deserve it more)

07-05-2010, 05:38 PM	#6
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	TCM REMINDER Featured Actor for July Gregory Peck My personal favorites: To Kill a Mockingbird The Paradine Case The Big Country Gentleman's Agreement

07-06-2010, 08:54 AM	#9
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,550 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Oh! I also got The Thin Man. I have seen it once before years ago but all i remember is the martinis

07-06-2010, 06:42 PM	#11
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	I watched Gregory Peck last night, I really enjoyed it. One movie he did that does bother me is *The Boys from Brazil*. I'm sensitive to anything antisemtic or fascist especially Josef Mengele. But Peck and Laurence Olivier (as Simon Weisenthal or from the foundation, I forget) deliver great performances. It's nice to see two giants in one movie. It's just kind of weird to see Gregory Peck play a maniac. See ya at the movies fellow classic cinema comrades.

07-07-2010, 12:10 PM	#12
dark_crystal Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: jenny Preferred Pronoun?: babygirl Relationship Status: First Lady of the United SMH Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,445 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,532 Thanked 26,550 Times in 4,688 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	I loved Gentleman's Agreement! My very very first thought was that I found the foley intrusive and noticed some repetition- same horn honk pattern on two different street scenes- but the lighting was amazing! Esp. when Phil visits Mr. Minify for the first time and you can see the shadow of a plant on the back wall... I liked the foreshadowing re: her weakness of character conveyed in Kathy's cocktail-party semi-mocking, half-defensive self-analysis I wonder if, the first two times we see Ma, she is wearing those jarring loud prints to confer a vitality that she will subsequently lose? And is that why the makeup artist allowed more face-shine when everyone else was in that gorgeous matte makeup b&w films always have? If so i am not sure it was successful... The whole marriage talk seemed really sudden to me- i get that the mores of the time left no other avenue once you swapped spit with a 'nice girl,' but she was a divorcee. Maybe time was telescoped and i missed it. I love the secretary but her reaction when she hears about the change in hiring policy so totally reminds me of how closeted queers will show hostility to out queers (this has happened to me). And the off-hand revelation about said hiring policies- could have been the major conflict and i am not sure it shouldn't have been, i felt like the story bogged down for maybe just a moment after Dave showed up. So shocking the way he grabbed Miss Wales's arm in their last scene together- TOTALLY could not do that now! That final scene is just gorgeous, and once again i am struck by how the limitations of b&w really brought out production creativity, e.g. the checkered floor outside Kathy's apartment. All in all a really gorgeous and touching movie! I'm glad i got to see it! thanks for the recommendation!

07-07-2010, 02:27 PM	#13
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	To be honest, I haven't seen Gentleman's Agreement for some time, but I do have it. So it's hard for me to comment on production. I do know that Elia Kazan won as best director. I'm guessing what you're seeing is Kazan's gritty realism, which was his signature such as On The Waterfront. and Streetcar Named Desire. I'm more taken with its antisemetic theme in post-war and the lengths Philip Greene goes through to prove antisemitisim and bigotry in the United States. Highly-sensitive stuff after the liberation of the Nazi death camps just a couple of years earlier. The woman who plays Greene's mother (I forget her name, I think its Anne Revere) was later black-balled in the MacArthy hearings on communism in 1952; it ruined her career. Kazan, on the other hand, was a witness and basically lost respect and freinds in Hollywood after snitching on them. See ya at the movies.

07-14-2010, 09:51 PM	#15
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	Stanwyck and Suspense! Sorry Wrong Number Double Indemnity The File on Thelma Jordon Jeopardy The Two Mrs. Carrolls

07-20-2010, 03:17 PM	#18
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,285 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	i watched "Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison" night before last. i love Deborah Kerr. And Robert Mitchum. There are some sweet scenes. Directed by John Huston.

07-20-2010, 03:25 PM	#19
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	I'm done with classic movies for a time. I'm sick of them. Nobody really cares anyway and its a very select topic that few know about.