It's Time to Boycott Arizona

[The_Lady_Snow]

[The_Lady_Snow]

[The_Lady_Snow]

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[The_Lady_Snow]

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Linus

And here I thought researching political statements for facts was a Canadian thing.

Canada ALSO has a liberal bias.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Canada ALSO has a liberal bias.

Don't tell the Conservatives that.. they might leav.. err.. Actually, on second thought, let them know. It'd improve the country immensely.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by TheBellyBionic

This, exactly. Refusing to condemn actions which are clearly wrong in every way denotes nothing so much as a complete *lack* of any kind of ethics. I feel that I have a very strong sense of ethics, and those ethics mean that I absolutely will stand up and say "No, there is definitely a difference between right and wrong. Slavery was wrong. Jim Crow laws were wrong. Apartheid is wrong. There is nothing redeeming or debatable about any of these things. They're just wrong. Always, in any era, at any time, always wrong." Kobi, you say "who am I to judge?" I don't. I, as a person with ethics, am an excellent judge of right and wrong. I, a person with ethics, am absolutely *obligated* to judge right from wrong. I find it incredibly disturbing that anyone could claim otherwise. I'm horrified that anyone could actually say that they can't judge the actions of the past. If you can't judge the past, then why should any of us trust you to make good decisions in the future? If you can't say whether or not slavery was wrong, why should any of us think that you'd stand against it happening again?

SHIT! Hell yes, one can determine if something in the past is right or wrong. And one would have to rather moronic to not be able to see what those wrongs have produced that we deal with today. Unless one just wants to keep themselves under a rock. Which is the choice of many, unfortunately.

You are right on here, Aj. I often look around at some of the wing-nut garbage today and wonder.... Would these people stand up against forms of the past transgressions today? My gut fear is they would not. and cry that they didn't know it was happening just as so many did while Jews (and others) were being gased in concentration camps (just one example).

In fact, examples of this kind of thinking (and in-action) are with us today! How many turn the other way with environmental hazards, domestic abuse and violence right next door, hate crimes against people, crimes against women, child labor infractions, blatant racism and the long term effects of structural racism... on and on..... fill in more blanks....

You bet the sins of the past are on me if I don't recognize exactly what they are and how they continue in various forms!

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Linus

Don't tell the Conservatives that.. they might leav.. err.. Actually, on second thought, let them know. It'd improve the country immensely.

Linus:

No, no, please it would be rude for us to horde conservatives here and take Canadian conservatives as well. You know, we should share. The two countries, long history of friendship etc., and I don't know that we've ever given Canada anything...the French gave the U.S. the Statue of Liberty. I say we could give Canada the Tea Party movement as a token of our esteem and friendship. And at any rate, Canada has a lot of moose right? Conservatives like shooting moose. Everyone goes home happy--well, not the moose but you get the idea.

No need for thanks. It was nothing really.

Cheers
Aj

[Medusa]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

Linus:

No, no, please it would be rude for us to horde conservatives here and take Canadian conservatives as well. You know, we should share. The two countries, long history of friendship etc., and I don't know that we've ever given Canada anything...the French gave the U.S. the Statue of Liberty. I say we could give Canada the Tea Party movement as a token of our esteem and friendship. And at any rate, Canada has a lot of moose right? Conservatives like shooting moose. Everyone goes home happy--well, not the moose but you get the idea.

No need for thanks. It was nothing really.

Cheers
Aj

You better include some helicopters to aid in shooting the Moose. I heard the conservatives like that

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Medusa

You better include some helicopters to aid in shooting the Moose. I heard the conservatives like that

Helicopters are SOOOOO 2008. Stealth Bombers are where it's at for hunting moose from the air.




If you're old fashioned, though, and want to hunt from the ground then nothing--I mean NOTHING--beats an M1A1 Abrahms tank. Road speed of 70mph and the main gun is 120mm cannon.



But if you are ready for real XTreme Hunting (tm) then I say go for the railgun in low-earth orbit.



Cheers
Aj

[SuperFemme]

if you put sara palin in a helicopter and told her she was shooting moose, she'd so be there.

[MsDemeanor]

Y'all are thinking waaaayyyyy too small.

1) All the Canadian conservatives move to the US
2) All the US liberals move to Canada or Mexico (depending on if they prefer hot or cold)
3) The US conservatives send every undocumented person back to Mexico, Central America, South America, Europe, Canada, Asia, and Africa
4) Liberals in Canada and Mexico (the US's two largest suppliers of imported oil) overwhelmingly vote to quit exporting oil to the US, on account of being offended by the conservatives complaining about having to import oil from countries that hate Americans (which, by now, Canada and Mexico will have become)
5) The entire conservative population of North America now resides in a country with food shortages from collapsed agriculture and poultry industries, spiraling deficits because all the rich hollywood and silicon valley liberals have left and taken their industries (and associated tax dollars) with them, reduced tourism because there's no one to clean the hotels and bus the restaurant dishes, and a severe oil shortage because the Middle East is now the US's only major oil source.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Y'all are thinking waaaayyyyy too small.

1) All the Canadian conservatives move to the US
2) All the US liberals move to Canada or Mexico (depending on if they prefer hot or cold)
3) The US conservatives send every undocumented person back to Mexico, Central America, South America, Europe, Canada, Asia, and Africa
4) Liberals in Canada and Mexico (the US's two largest suppliers of imported oil) overwhelmingly vote to quit exporting oil to the US, on account of being offended by the conservatives complaining about having to import oil from countries that hate Americans (which, by now, Canada and Mexico will have become)
5) The entire conservative population of North America now resides in a country with food shortages from collapsed agriculture and poultry industries, spiraling deficits because all the rich hollywood and silicon valley liberals have left and taken their industries (and associated tax dollars) with them, reduced tourism because there's no one to clean the hotels and bus the restaurant dishes, and a severe oil shortage because the Middle East is now the US's only major oil source.

I am humbled to be in the presence of a Jedi Master! Teach me your technique, sensei! I wish to become your Padawan learner and become as strong with the Dark Side of the Force as you.

[dreadgeek]

I have often wished that we had another planet upon which we could run the libertarian experiment American conservatives have said they think would lead to the best of all societies.

One group could stay here, the other group would go to the other planet.

On one planet there would be public schools where children would learn history and science. There would be public libraries, public museums, civic symphonies and theatre. There would be a social safety net so that there was a minimum level below which no one would fall. There would be investment in public transportation and clean or renewable energy sources. Infrastructure would be maintained for the good of all. Taxes would be higher than they are now, but corporations would pay their share and the rich would pay their share. People would still be religious, of course, but there would be church, there would be state and the two would not meet.

On the other planet it would be a libertarian paradise. The ONLY regulations would be in favor of corporations restraining the actions of citizens--for example, it would be illegal to sue a company for damages due to a faulty product. It would be impossible to sue your physician. There would be no public schools, the churches would provide all educational and charitable services. There would be a flat-tax so the person making $10,000 a year would pay the same percentage in tax as the person making $10,000,000 a year. There would be no labor laws, no civil rights laws.

In schools children would learn that the Earth was 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs walked the planet at the same time. All scientific discoveries would be filtered through a religious authority to ensure that they were doctrinally correct. If they weren't then those discoveries would be suppressed.

There would be police, of course, who were mostly concerned with the protecting of corporate property. Guns would be easy to get and everyone would walk around with *at least* two. There would be no traffic laws to speak of however if you caused property damage you could be sued for that. If you caused the loss of life a citizen could sue another citizen.

Assuming that there were ethnic, religious, racial or sexual orientation minorities on this planet businesses would be free to discriminate against them in any way they chose that did not involve taking their property.

There would be no environmental regulations and labor unions would be outlawed.

Every generation (say 25 years) we could do a survey of the two planets and see which one had the happier, healthier, more long-lived population and we could see which one was more technologically advanced.

Cheers
Aj

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

I am humbled to be in the presence of a Jedi Master! Teach me your technique, sensei! I wish to become your Padawan learner and become as strong with the Dark Side of the Force as you.

I'm humbled, as your posts usually leave me curled up in a corner whimpering in despair because I can't muster 1/10th of your the brain power.

[SuperFemme]

all joking aside...
here is a sobering thought and frightening story that I fear we shall see more of.

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/05/2..._Ark_shootout/

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

One group could stay here, the other group would go to the other planet.

Which planet gets the scientists who know how to create interplanetary weapons?

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Which planet gets the scientists who know how to create interplanetary weapons?