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Old 12-03-2009, 12:51 AM   #81
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anyway, the information here about animal control in my county, and how the commissioners have done nothing for many years about their chief animal control officer, and the various complaints about her/the way the shelter operates [without a Standard Operating Procedure manual]- is a crime- to be sure. we have met other people, animal lovers, taxpayers, animal shelters, humane societies, and so on- who have dealt with this type of shelter scenario before, in some other town. some other chief animal control officer. some county commissioners - who do not act in the best interest of their community nor the animals, of course.
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[QUOTE=NotAnAverageGuy;15799]Belle,

Here in Houston, BARC has had the "not wanting to run their shelter issue" and most of the animals there were sick and some died.

i understand.

many times, even the best shelters become sort of territorial of "their" shelter- how the day to day business is handled. if the commissioners vote a humane society to "run" a shelter, providing the hs wishes to do so- that may be another story. however, the chief animal control officer in my county is married to a deputy and the animal control shelter is getting support from someone. the chief ACO is not going down if she, the husband, and commissioners can help it.

steps have to be taken. many, many pieces need to be in place. meetings have to be held. advisors brought in. well-thought-out plans have to be brought before the commissioners - who have been all too willing to ignore issues.



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Belle,

Here in Houston, BARC has had the "not wanting to run their shelter issue" and most of the animals there were sick and some died.

i understand.

many times, even the best shelters become sort of territorial of "their" shelter- how the day to day business is handled. if the commissioners vote a humane society to "run" a shelter, providing the hs wishes to do so- that may be another story. however, the chief animal control officer in my county is married to a deputy and the animal control shelter is getting support from someone. the chief ACO is not going down if she, the husband, and commissioners can help it.

steps have to be taken. many, many pieces need to be in place. meetings have to be held. advisors brought in. well-thought-out plans have to be brought before the commissioners - who have been all too willing to ignore issues.



Thats alot of steps and that I totally understand, just seems things need to be done quicker than it normally is done. BARC has hired like maybe 2-3 head leaders in the last year and they all got fired.
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For anxiety in dogs I would recommend Bach Flower Essence, Rescue Remedy. You can find it at your local health food store and it has a very calming affect very shortly after administered.

Olive (my dog) has always displayed symptoms of separation anxiety. After I leave she will try to find anything she can get her paws on that smells like me or the girls. I have had to resort to moving our laundry into my closet because she drags it all over the house and eventually onto the couch so she can sleep on it. I have one particular sweater I give her that I don't mind being covered in dog hair and saliva and she keeps it with her at all times when home alone.

Another key to diminishing separation anxiety is to not speak to them when you leave the house. I used to always snuggle Olive, tell her to be a good girl and that I would be home soon. I was told that this behavior just escalates their anxiety because they know you are leaving and by acknowledging that it exacerbates the problem.

So now when I leave I don't make eye contact and I don't say goodbye. The same goes for when I come home and she is jumping all over me and flipping out. My behavior communicates to her that I am in charge and I am the alpha female in the house. I walk in the house, pick up her leash and walk her outside to go potty. Then when we get back in and I have things settled I acknowledge her and smother her with kisses.

At first I thought this was very cruel behavior on my part, but after really working on it I started to see a marked improvement in her behavior and spirit.
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I want to thank everyone for the links they provided regarding living with blind dogs. I've decided that I can't adequately care for the little Aussie girl I wanted to adopt. I'm really sad about it, but I want her to have everything she needs. I did learn a lot in the process though. Maybe this will lead me somewhere in the future. Who knows?
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Well, we have 2 of our cats in quarantine in separate cages because of mouth infections. We've been trying for a couple of months now with the help of our vet to cure this infection. Seems just when we think it's under control, it comes back. Our vet says it's being passed around through their saliva and we're lucky the other cats don't have it. At least we think they don't because they're aren't showing signs of it. Currently they are getting oral mouth medicine twice a day and a shot of antibiotic at night because we can't give them pills. Most of our cats are drama queens and kings when it comes to pills. However these girl kitties could barely eat food, so pills were out. The alternative if this infection doesn't go away would be to have them put down and I don't want that to happen, so I need lots of prayers for Silver and Tigress. I am not prepared to lose any of these cats to death after working so hard to keep them alive and off the streets.
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Has anyone used the anti anxiety medication, Reconcile?

We have a mini schnauzer who was a Katrina rescue. He has always been a tad on the "crazy" side, but since our move in April, his anxiety has just escalated.

We consulted with a new vet here yesterday, and he has ordered this medication for Scooter. It should be in next week.

We have tried the OTC calming meds for him without any results.

I would be interested in others' experiences with this.

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No, but found ths when I researched the CVM site..and it mentions in conjunction with training as Kimbo mentioned.
Margaret Gillis, regulatory associate at Elanco Animal Health, Greenfield, IN, has received a WARNING LETTER because of various promotional items associated with the firm’s product, Reconcile™ (fluoxetine hydrochloride). Reconcile™ is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) indicated for the treatment of canine separation anxiety in conjunction with a behavior modification plan. The four items in question involved an article entitled, “Separation Anxiety: A Brief Overview,” the “reconcile.com” Web site, a consumer brochure, and a print advertisement in the May issue of Veterinary Forum Magazine. The pieces and the Web site suggested that the product was more effective than had been demonstrated. Therefore, the drug was found to be misbranded under sections 502(n) and 201(n) of the FFDCA.


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christine, may these links be of some help to you all.

i like very low-key arrivals/departures to and from the home. going about your business for a little while does seem to help with separation anxiety related issues. plus, you have time to put down the packages, and go to the bathroom!


http://dogtime.com/canine-anxiety-epidemic.html

i've always been fond of this site:

http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/barking.pdf

http://www.ddfl.org/tips.htm
Great links violaine...here's another one *
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/default.htm That is where I found the info on Reconcile above.
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Well, we have 2 of our cats in quarantine in separate cages because of mouth infections. We've been trying for a couple of months now with the help of our vet to cure this infection. Seems just when we think it's under control, it comes back. Our vet says it's being passed around through their saliva and we're lucky the other cats don't have it. At least we think they don't because they're aren't showing signs of it. Currently they are getting oral mouth medicine twice a day and a shot of antibiotic at night because we can't give them pills. Most of our cats are drama queens and kings when it comes to pills. However these girl kitties could barely eat food, so pills were out. The alternative if this infection doesn't go away would be to have them put down and I don't want that to happen, so I need lots of prayers for Silver and Tigress. I am not prepared to lose any of these cats to death after working so hard to keep them alive and off the streets.
Ah man that stinks. Nothing is worse than a sick kitty who shares the love...my little feral is sneezing way more than I am comfortable with...I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I don't get an upper respiratory going thru my herd.

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kimbo- do you mean colony? the guinea pigs are a herd-[teasing you ]

i would like to share some important information, if anyone is unfamiliar with how to get statistics from a shelter. may be a good idea to take a look the first amendment/freedom of information, before writing to a shelter for the records-

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/...ic=how_to_FOIA

how to access public records- you can click on a sample request at the bottom of the page:

http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1837


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I have a beautiful male Birman rescue cat named Suave. He was caged as a breeder for the first 4-6 months of his life. When he was brought to his foster Mom's he sat in an open room, unable to leave the little 3x3 space he was used to being in. He just sat there, still confined. He didn't know how to play, or interact. When I got him he stayed under the couch for a week, until I found Kitty treats. He would only come out at night when all the lights were out, so I used to pretend I was going to bed, just so I could see him.

LOL I had a psychic reading done on him (don't laugh) and it was suggested he needed a cat friend. I looked and looked for just the right cat, finally finding a very well socialized Flame Point Himalayan / Persian kitten. She was a little white ball of fluff, and walked in here like she had booked a room at the Hilton, and was making sure it was to her liking. Over the past year, she has taught Suave to play, how to be social, and even how to come to me. After 2years, he will finally come to me and ask for attention. I have yet to hear him purrrr. But I do know he feels safe and loved. Pashi
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I know I'm late to the discussion but wanted to toss in my experience. No I haven't used Reconcile™ (fluoxetine hydrochloride) - you may not be aware of it but all it is is prozac - which can be useful in treating anxiety. I definitely think meds are warranted when the anxiety is bad, but behavioral modifications are equally important. Someone mentioned the not making a big deal out of leaving/coming back, which is very true. Same thing with storm anxiety - act like nothing is wrong which sends the message that nothing is wrong. If you try to comfort then it sends the message that something is wrong. I would consult with your vet for resources for behavioral interventions. One book I found helpful in terms of a general understanding was "Don't shoot the dog." I also used another resource that was specifically intended for canine anxiety - recommended by my vet - can't remember now what it was called.

As for the meds, prozac is safe and can be effective. But don't by Reconcile when you can get generic prozac for much cheaper. I don't know if you have Walgreens in your area but they have a generic meds plan. If you get the family plan - $35 a year - it covers generic prozac and includes pets. That's definitely the way to go. There are also other meds that can be used. My dog is on clomipramine - that and intense behavioral work have made a huge difference for her. Her anxiety has gone from major anxiety/freak out attacks to sitting and shaking, which generally doesn't last very long.

Establishing yourself as alpha is also really important, for many reasons, one of them being for anxious dogs. When they see you as alpha then there is a sense of safety for them and it can reduce anxiety. Something as simple as obediance school to help you be alpha (if you aren't already) could be a helpful step as well.

I'll check at home and see if I can find links to the references that have been really helpful for my Norah.
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Where should I post a thread about sugar gliders and exotic pets? under this section or the other part of the forum that has healthy pets thread?
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i think you could put your ideas in a new thread if you wanted, or here- for resources/support. i've never really been terribly picky about the animal conversations staying on topic of particular animal in threads i start on the boards. it's up to you

hope you are doing well. i totally miss a site called cavycompendium. apparently, there's a database error that has not been tended to for a very long time. the forums were great, not just for gpigs. there were plenty of forums for other exotic pets.
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i think you could put your ideas in a new thread if you wanted, or here- for resources/support. i've never really been terribly picky about the animal conversations staying on topic of particular animal in threads i start on the boards. it's up to you

hope you are doing well. i totally miss a site called cavycompendium. apparently, there's a database error that has not been tended to for a very long time. the forums were great, not just for gpigs. there were plenty of forums for other exotic pets.
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For those of us that want or need information on caring etc... for feral cat colonies I found excellent reading on these three sites. I apologize ahead of time if any of them have already been shared.

http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/ferals.html

http://www.feralcat.com/

http://www.feralcatcaretakers.org/Overview/Mission.html

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For those of us that want or need information on caring etc... for feral cat colonies I found excellent reading on these three sites. I apologize ahead of time if any of them have already been shared.

http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/ferals.html

http://www.feralcat.com/

http://www.feralcatcaretakers.org/Overview/Mission.html

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I'd like to add the link to the group here in Seattle--I'm proud to work with this group to become Sexless in Seattle!! (not my personal motto..) Many other cities started their own feral projects based on the success of The Feral Cat Project in Seattle. I do not hesitate to take ferals to them or to refer anyone who will assist with ferals.

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I bought some cat toys for the feral cats. I am starting to name them. It was precious watching them play with the balls. I am working on socializing them a bit. It will take some time but two of the older kittens really seem to be coming around. Patience and unconditional love are amazing tools.
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i thought the link above contained some good information- like the styrofoam house [i've made these and put thick cardboard around them, then more styrofoam, et c]. tonight i brought in a little friend for a short period of time [actually, we visited neighbour john!]- perhaps she has a home? i see her running in an awful hurry one direction frequently, but she's out in all of the worst kinds of weather. also, i've watched her run after a car, but the people in that car do not have a cat! i'm beginning to think someone may have moved and left her behind. if i can find someone willing to really love her forever, i'll ask her if she'd like to go. she does certainly have friends here, who do have homes. they gathered in warmer weather to make big plans under shady trees, full moons, and open fields.



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