Same-Sex Marriage Update

MsTinkerbelly · 08-11-2010, 04:23 PM

Why is it taking the Judge so long to decide whether or not to enter the judgement and lift the stay?

Lord have mercy!!!

Jess · 08-11-2010, 07:33 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba-261453

Jess · 08-11-2010, 08:28 PM

NOM's stop in NC met with great turnout of equal marriage supporters!

http://charlotte.news14.com/content/...onents-protest

I'm sure their little bus is gonna feel pretty dank driving away from DC also!

Ebon · 08-11-2010, 10:03 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/wo...xico.html?_r=2

AtLast · 08-12-2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

Why is it taking the Judge so long to decide whether or not to enter the judgement and lift the stay?

Lord have mercy!!!

I know!

Personally, I think to continue the stay (even doing it in the first place) was counterintuitive to the opinion .. made it seem like its possible Prop 8 is constitutional. After Walker wrote such a brilliant opinion leaving no stone unturned, the stay was strange.

Nat · 08-12-2010, 05:58 AM

Last night I got a notice from equality action now (a northern Ca group) saying the announcement on the Prop 8 stay will happen today betwen 9 am and noon PST.

They also mention - for those in Sacramento, anybody wanting a marriage license should head to the Marriage License Office at 8th and F Streets Sacramento to get a license. They have requested Sen. Darrell Steinberg , Mark Leno and Assm Member Tom Ammiano to perform marriages at the state capitol in the afternoon from 3 to 6 pm (should anybody want to attend).

Makes me wish I were still in that area

- I'd love to attend.

Jess · 08-12-2010, 07:00 AM

" Thank you for your call"... Social Security's answer to gay man whose partner of 32 years had passed...

http://vimeo.com/13491562

Cyclopea · 08-12-2010, 07:20 AM

Glen Beck more "left" than Obama on marriage equality

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_679691.html

Soon · 08-12-2010, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Glen Beck more "left" than Obama on marriage equality

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_679691.html

(second clip says he has same position as President)

MsTinkerbelly · 08-12-2010, 07:49 AM

BREAKING: JUDGE WALKER TO RULE THURSDAY ON STAY IN PROP 8 CASE

By Eden James

Get ready, everyone. Within the next 24 hours, same-sex couples may be able to get married in California.

Judge Walker has announced that he will render a decision on the stay between 9 a.m. and 12 p.m. PST on Thursday. From the Sacramento Bee:

SAN FRANCISCO — The federal judge who overturned California’s same-sex marriage ban says he is ready to rule on whether gay marriages should resume immediately in the state or await an appeals court’s input.

Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker said he would issue his decision Thursday by noon on requests to impose a stay that would keep Proposition 8 in effect while its sponsors appeal his decision.

What does it all mean? Our friends at Marriage Equality USA sent the following to their members a little while ago:

If Judge Walker lifts the stay, it is likely it will be appealed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. At the 9th Circuit, it would be reviewed by a 3-person panel and their decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit and eventually the US Supreme Court. But because the US Supreme Court is not in session until October, the decision about lifting the stay would be appealed to the Justice in charge, which for the 9th Circuit is Justice Kennedy. We are witnessing history and it is crucial that as we continue to move through the courts, we must build support with the court of public opinion and provide a human face to this issue.

Ebon · 08-12-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

(second clip says he has same position as President)

I don't understand how he has a TV show, I really don't. He makes my skin crawl.

Manul · 08-12-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Glen Beck more "left" than Obama on marriage equality

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_679691.html

I didn't understand it that way. My understanding is Glenn Beck doesn't think civil rights is an important issue:

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"Honestly, I think we have bigger fish to fry," Beck said. "You can argue about abortion or gay marriage or whatever all you want. The country is burning down...I don't think marriage, that the government actually has anything to do with...that is a religious right."

In other words, he demeans equal marriage.

Jess · 08-12-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Manul

I didn't understand it that way. My understanding is Glenn Beck doesn't think civil rights is an important issue:

In other words, he demeans equal marriage.

I actually saw the interview and statements regarding "bigger fish" to be a slam at O'Rielly. I think the whole " I'm big.. you're small" thing is probably very telling of some personal rivalry.

The most unfortunate piece of information with the entire incident is that HuffPo ( or at least a staffer) thinks perhaps Beck maybe more "left" than our seated Democratic President. Perhaps, it is just a dig to hopefully make this administration live up to its promises. Who knows? It's all more politics.

MsTinkerbelly · 08-12-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jess

" Thank you for your call"... Social Security's answer to gay man whose partner of 32 years had passed...

http://vimeo.com/13491562

So very sad....but until we get marriage rights at the Federal level this will continue to happen.

My daughter's Father lost his job, and as it is cheaper to put her on my spouse's insurance we are going with that opinion. Yay that it is available, but we have to pay Federal taxes on it because it is not an Equal marriage in the eyes of the law.

Manul · 08-12-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

So very sad....but until we get marriage rights at the Federal level this will continue to happen.

My daughter's Father lost his job, and as it is cheaper to put her on my spouse's insurance we are going with that opinion. Yay that it is available, but we have to pay Federal taxes on it because it is not an Equal marriage in the eyes of the law.

Which just proves marriage is a government issue and not a religious issue.

Jess · 08-12-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Manul

Which just proves marriage is a government issue and not a religious issue.

I agree. As long as heterosexual couples receive rights or benefits for getting married, then is is a legislative process and not strictly religious. I don't see any churches offering group policies or tax breaks for married couples. That is all about government. I don't see how any religious group can seriously look at the institution of marriage as strictly a religious act.

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Jess Timed Out - Permanent How Do You Identify?: decidedly indifferent Preferred Pronoun?: other Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Patrick Springs, VA Posts: 2,812 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,247 Thanked 5,700 Times in 1,682 Posts Rep Power: 0	NOM's stop in NC met with great turnout of equal marriage supporters! http://charlotte.news14.com/content/...onents-protest I'm sure their little bus is gonna feel pretty dank driving away from DC also!

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MsTinkerbelly Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: ... Preferred Pronoun?: ... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ... Posts: 6,573 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,737 Thanked 22,907 Times in 5,017 Posts Rep Power: 0	To piggyback off of Nat..... BREAKING: JUDGE WALKER TO RULE THURSDAY ON STAY IN PROP 8 CASE By Eden James Get ready, everyone. Within the next 24 hours, same-sex couples may be able to get married in California. Judge Walker has announced that he will render a decision on the stay between 9 a.m. and 12 p.m. PST on Thursday. From the Sacramento Bee: SAN FRANCISCO — The federal judge who overturned California’s same-sex marriage ban says he is ready to rule on whether gay marriages should resume immediately in the state or await an appeals court’s input. Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker said he would issue his decision Thursday by noon on requests to impose a stay that would keep Proposition 8 in effect while its sponsors appeal his decision. What does it all mean? Our friends at Marriage Equality USA sent the following to their members a little while ago: If Judge Walker lifts the stay, it is likely it will be appealed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. At the 9th Circuit, it would be reviewed by a 3-person panel and their decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit and eventually the US Supreme Court. But because the US Supreme Court is not in session until October, the decision about lifting the stay would be appealed to the Justice in charge, which for the 9th Circuit is Justice Kennedy. We are witnessing history and it is crucial that as we continue to move through the courts, we must build support with the court of public opinion and provide a human face to this issue.