Proposed Mosque Near Ground Zero

Outlaw · 08-17-2010, 04:14 PM

From a friend who still works just a few blocks from the WTC site - The piece entitled "Hallowed Ground" showcases some of what we would see on the walk from from the subway to the office.

MsMerrick · 08-17-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outlaw

From a friend who still works just a few blocks from the WTC site - The piece entitled "Hallowed Ground" showcases some of what we would see on the walk from from the subway to the office.

Well worth repeating !
A Community Center, not unlike a YMCA or a YMHA, is what is being built btw, not a "Mosque"

MsDemeanor · 08-17-2010, 07:14 PM

I like the point made last night by Keith Olbermann - there's already a mosque 4 blocks from the WTC site, and it's been there since before the WTC was even built!!!

Outlaw · 08-17-2010, 07:40 PM

Toughy · 08-17-2010, 08:16 PM

I keep trying to remember the 'average American' who has never walked down the street and heard at least 2 and usually 3 languages on a routine basis.........

or spent every friday night family dinner where at least 8 languages could be spoken at the dinner table...

Isadora · 08-17-2010, 08:44 PM

Here is what bothers me, in no particular order:

Media focusing and building the controversy over something that is not even new to the area...instead we should be worried about our economy, lack of jobs, no money in education, no money for updated books, and fascism invading our politics.

Government officials focusing on the horror of it while about 19% (2008 US Census) of our country lives in poverty and about 48% of that are children, bout 15 million children -- one out of every four live below the official poverty line, 22% of Americans under the age of 18 -- and 25% under age 12 are hungry or at the risk of being hungry. Children ARE Hungry In The US. Children and families are the fastest growing group in the homeless population, representing 40%.

After years of my career working with government agencies with nothing changing....it amazes me how little we truly care about each other and more about perceived terror with an unethical media. Compassion is not a media magnet.

dreadgeek · 08-25-2010, 10:44 AM

Saw this at Talking Points Memo a few moments ago.

The New York Police Department has confirmed to TPM that a cab driver in Manhttan was allegedly stabbed by a passenger who asked if the cabbie was Muslim, and says the incident is being treated as a hate crime. The suspect has been charged with attempted murder and other crimes.

According to Detective Marc Nell, at 6:12 pm last night, the driver picked up Michael Enright, 21, of Brewster, NY, at the intersection of 24th Street and 2nd Avenue in Manhattan. The cab proceeded to drive north, and Enright asked the driver, who Nell identified as a 43-year-old Asian male, if he was Muslim. After the driver responded that he was, Enright allegedly stabbed him repeatedly with a Leatherman tool, according to police.

"[Enright] stabbed the driver in the throat, right arm, left forearm, right thumb and upper lip," Nell said.

According to police, the driver called 911, and stopped the cab on 3rd Avenue between 40th and 41st streets, managing to lock Enright inside until police arrived.

Nell told TPM that the cab driver is in stable condition, and that Enright has been charged with "attempted murder two as a hate crime, assault with a weapon as a hate crime, aggravated harassment second degree because of race and religion, and criminal possession of a weapon."

Nell could not confirm that Enright had admitted to asking the driver if he was Muslim.

AtLast · 08-18-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

I keep trying to remember the 'average American' who has never walked down the street and heard at least 2 and usually 3 languages on a routine basis.........

or spent every friday night family dinner where at least 8 languages could be spoken at the dinner table...

I miss this average American, this was (still is to a degree) my life.

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