Concealed weapons. Yes or No ???

Cowboi · 08-18-2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess

Out of all the concealed carry arguments that go on, the one that really freaks me out is the debate as to whether CCW's can be taken into bars. THIS really does not make me feel safe at all.

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2...31601-ar-8602/

I know in Louisiana is is illegal to carry a weapon into a bar.

Bard · 08-18-2010, 08:05 PM

Jut my 2 cents I would never carry in a bar if your drinking you judgement is impaired me I just ain't taking a chance. firearm ownership carrys with it a lot of responsiblity.

Jess · 08-19-2010, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bard

Jut my 2 cents I would never carry in a bar if your drinking you judgement is impaired me I just ain't taking a chance. firearm ownership carrys with it a lot of responsiblity.

I totally agree, Bard. Alcohol and guns don't mix. Kinda like my thoughts on off shore drilling. No matter how ya slice it, oil and water do not mix.

paposeco · 08-21-2010, 10:34 AM

Gun ownership, I believe it's a huge responsibility, as it should be. Too many folks out there just don't have the smarts God gave a goat to carry water let alone a gun, especially into a bar..really? are these law makers that stupid? YES! Here where I live, they're going for the "you don't need a permit to carry a concealed weapon/gun", walk into the gun store, lay your money down buy the gun and out into the world you go...just like that..."cash n carry".. OK give me a drink, a stiff one!. Someone said that 70% (?) of murders are commited by guns...noo they're commited by morons with guns, that's their mentality..these same folks, if no guns were available, would kill just the same..of course it's much easier to kill using a gun rather than a knife..or a baseball bat etc...just this week here in my hometown no less than 5 murders, and 4 out of the 5 were commited by one or more gang members. These weaklings that think they're men, or women, because they pull a gun a kill people. One thing that I despise with a fire hot passion, is gangbangers, and anybody that thinks it's a cool life style is in serious need of good ol'fashion lobotomy. But I digress. I think gun ownership should be a 'privilege, not necessarly a right..judging by the madness and violence in this country that seems to be getting worse by the hour. I'm not one to have big brother all up in my bis but, in this case I think that for the safety of us all, some common sense and intelligent laws should be passed about responsible gun ownership. Too many places have a "blanc check" attitude, and a blanc head, when it comes to this all important issue. (please excuse the typos...)

SuperFemme · 08-21-2010, 11:41 AM

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chefhottie25 · 08-21-2010, 04:25 PM

i would never personally own a concealed weapon, and in my 20's i was against anyone bearing arms. however, in the last 5 years or so my feelings and opinion about it has changed. it was mostly because my sister came back from the war in iraq with her military issued gun. she is a responsible gun owner and has educated herself about gun safety and maintaince. because of that, i have come to believe that gun owners like my sister do have the right to bear arms. i also believe that we stricter gun laws and a better effort to get illegal weapons out of the wrong hands. there should be an extremely thorough process in place to be able to purchase a weapon. with more safeguards in place maybe potentially criminal minded individuals would not be able to obtain a concealed weapon.

Corkey · 08-21-2010, 04:54 PM

I'd like to dispel a myth here. The Constitutional amendment for the right to bare arms is the 2 amendment. It isn't up for vote. SCOTUS has made the determination that it is well with in citizens rights to have fire arms. The decision on whether to issue a conceal permit usually resides with law enforcement, Sheriffs, police chiefs, after a background check and the need to carry is documented, in some states, not all, and this is where there is a problem. We need to have all states enforce this so that all weapons are legally acquired and only citizens who are allowed to, have them. Guns and booze obviously a bad idea.

Jess · 08-19-2010, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboi

I know in Louisiana is is illegal to carry a weapon into a bar.

It was illegal here until this year. I know the debate is going on in a few other states.

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