Beck and Palin

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:23 AM

My brain hurts

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:24 AM

By Chanceeeeeeeeeeee....Beck is staying at the hotel where Dr King wrote his speach and the Battle Hymn of the Republic was written.

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:25 AM

How come Beck is reading when he was not going to prepare a speach?

Is God writing on the teleprompter for him?

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:25 AM

OK...note cards, or whatever.....

UGH

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:30 AM

Preaching.

Burning Bush...

Moses...

Beck can relate to Martin Luther King the most.

Is he wearing a bullet proof vest?

Linus · 08-28-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Preaching.

Burning Bush...

Moses...

Beck can relate to Martin Luther King the most.

Is he wearing a bullet proof vest?

Probably. To be real, I'm sure he's had just as many death threats as Obama does. You don't say things like he does without making enemies.

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus

Probably. To be real, I'm sure he's had just as many death threats as Obama does. You don't say things like he does without making enemies.

True true...

Though I think the people who would kill a public figure are on his side.

Linus · 08-28-2010, 10:26 AM

His hands aren't big enough.

I did a search for pictures and noticed that the ones I saw pretty much everyone had those fold up chairs. I wonder if that is making the crowd seem larger than it is.

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus

His hands aren't big enough.

I did a search for pictures and noticed that the ones I saw pretty much everyone had those fold up chairs. I wonder if that is making the crowd seem larger than it is.

Makes sense, and a bunch of people left during the previous segment.

Linus · 08-28-2010, 10:36 AM

I was just listening to Beck and noticed he speaks in snippets. It's like he lacks whole concepts and cannot elaborate on them.

Apocalipstic · 08-28-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus

I was just listening to Beck and noticed he speaks in snippets. It's like he lacks whole concepts and cannot elaborate on them.

Yep, like sound bites.

Keeping things simple for the uneducated?

Linus · 08-28-2010, 03:44 PM

I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

Rockinonahigh · 08-28-2010, 04:59 PM

In this day and age I should think people whoul have more smarts than to fall for the snake oil side show they put on,but I gess if a rable rouser can holler enough loud enough...somebody will show up to see what its all about.

Corkey · 08-28-2010, 05:01 PM

I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

Apocalipstic · 08-29-2010, 10:28 AM

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I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

We drank 2 pots of coffee and yelled at the TV together.

waxnrope · 08-29-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Linus

I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

That's just it. There's no depth, no real concrete anything. This was the way of Palin's failed journey. Witless platitudes served upon a platter of whiteness, distortions, and a reconstructed(for their own aims) G-d. When it is over, all one can utter, really, is, huh?

Apocalipstic · 08-29-2010, 10:45 AM

I thought it did seem pretty religious, and politcal.

The points made seemed to be anti women, abortion, taxes, government social programs and more.

It read like a church service.

I agree Theo about what happened in Germany between the world wars. People get scared and they turn on each other like we are seeing now.

For example the anti Islamic thing now...equipment being used to build a Mosque in Mufreesboro, TN (30 minutes from here) was caught on fire yesterday.

Its like we have to have someone to target with our hateful fear.

waxnrope · 08-29-2010, 11:12 AM

It may have read to you like your experience of church services.*I* feel that we must be careful lumping all religious customs and beliefs in one basket, just as some POC do not lump all white people as predatory, colonizing asshats.

We are lead now to be polarized. Power will use whatever works to attain its ends. Do the corporate structures, operating behind the scenes in the media and elsewhere, do they really give a rat's behind about G-d, or anything having to do with a deeply considered ethos? What approach has been most successful in changing the minds of people? Truth? Or fear of the Other? What makes the other distinct? Since at least Newt Gingrich, we have come to politics with a posse mentality. The nation has succumbed to being whipped up into a frenzy by those in the background who play us like a seasoned lover. There is no reasoned discourse taking place within this circus of the absurd.

Those "religious" or, better, those who profess a religion, struggle with how to counter this insanity. We have been trained to counter Prop 8 when dealing with the media. When our churches, synagogues, and mosques are picketed by the religious right, we run to support and give voice to the media. The media ignores us too. We are crying out to counter what is being done in our name. There are few ears to hear.

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