Beck and Palin

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I wonder how many people actually believe this shit?

depending on who asks, how they ask and what they ask........somewhere between 25-35% of white folks in this country.......it's been that way ever since I have followed politics..........the last time this happened it was over the 'Godless communists' with Senator Joe McCarthy

that said..........the 'God sent me to do this' thing is getting truly truly scary.....really scary...this just seems really different............the lies keep being repeated and the media reports it like fact.......truth is a lie and the lie is the truth....so the media says.........

[Ebon]

I can't wait to see what the Daily Show has to say about this whole thing.

[theoddz]

I think that, since times are so tough now with unemployment, scaled back social services, people who have fallen on hard times find solace in religion. Who was it, Karl Marx who said that "Religion is the opium of the people."??

Oh, okay, here's the quote:

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." -- Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

~Theo~

[Nat]

These people scare the crap out of me. I didn't watch. Beck grosses me out. Palin too - in a different way. I don't blame religion. I blame human nature. Human pack behavior. Human gullibility. Human brain-laziness. Human lack of compassion. Etc.

[Nat]

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Toughy

depending on who asks, how they ask and what they ask........somewhere between 25-35% of white folks in this country.......it's been that way ever since I have followed politics..........the last time this happened it was over the 'Godless communists' with Senator Joe McCarthy

that said..........the 'God sent me to do this' thing is getting truly truly scary.....really scary...this just seems really different............the lies keep being repeated and the media reports it like fact.......truth is a lie and the lie is the truth....so the media says.........

I grew up with "god told me to" how does one argue with that which makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Organicbutch

I can't wait to see what the Daily Show has to say about this whole thing.

I know...I am eat up. I can
t wait! We are taping them...Colbert too and Oberman and Rachel.

Originally Posted by theoddz

I think that, since times are so tough now with unemployment, scaled back social services, people who have fallen on hard times find solace in religion. Who was it, Karl Marx who said that "Religion is the opium of the people."??

Oh, okay, here's the quote:

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." -- Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

~Theo~

True and SCARY.
I don't agree with the part about abolishing religion to make people happy...but otherwise, I agree with Marx...Yes, I lean very far to the left, but stop at the forcing people to give it up.

Originally Posted by Nat

These people scare the crap out of me. I didn't watch. Beck grosses me out. Palin too - in a different way. I don't blame religion. I blame human nature. Human pack behavior. Human gullibility. Human brain-laziness. Human lack of compassion. Etc.

Cynthia was watching, so I watched with her.

I agree that everything falls apart when people are involved. Human nature freaks me out.

[theoddz]

Oh, I wasn't trying to state that I thought religion out to be abolished. I don't believe that, but I do agree with Marx that people, as a group, tend to gravitate more to it during hard times.

We're living in terribly difficult times now. People are clinging to whatever gives them hope and religion has often filled that need. It gives solace, but at the same time, there's enough double-talk and room for interpretation in various religious scriptures to give people with lost hope plenty of license to blame or condemn others.

One of the big reasons that Hitler was so able to "hypnotize" the masses was that, after the defeat they suffered in WW1, the German people were demoralized and their country, particularly the economy, was in shambles. In this case, Hitler was able to utilize Nationalism as a tool to garner support for his extremist and evil goals. We're seeing that again, like yesterday's Beck Rally....emotionalism hyped up by appealing to the conservative American's sense of national pride, patriotism and religious convictions. Same thing happened in Nazi Germany.

I think this is what I find so squicky/scary. Yes, it is "pack mentality"....at its worst and most dangerous.

~Theo~

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Nat

lmaooooooooooooooooo

"you know where you are"

really????