NY Gov. starting a tax war with Native Americans

Rockinonahigh · 08-31-2010, 07:01 AM

I do hope the violence dosent happen,if they r going to tax ciggys they shoould tax across the bord.Im a life long smoker who has quit because of the cost + of health reasons(asthma) so if I can quit anyone can,beleave me its wasnt easy...nicotine is a wicked bitch..it kills and dosent care who dies from it the smoker or someone near by.What took the place of ciggys..red hotts candy..works just fine.Hear ciggys went up to $7.00 bucks a pack and steady going up..I refuse to see $$$ go up in smoke with nada to show for it but an empty pacl to put in the trash.I was two packs a day wich means I spent $98.00 a week on ciggys..figure it up over a year...$5.096.00..yeah lotta money that can go for better things.

morningstar55 · 08-31-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh

I do hope the violence dosent happen,if they r going to tax ciggys they shoould tax across the bord.Im a life long smoker who has quit because of the cost + of health reasons(asthma) so if I can quit anyone can,beleave me its wasnt easy...nicotine is a wicked bitch..it kills and dosent care who dies from it the smoker or someone near by.What took the place of ciggys..red hotts candy..works just fine.Hear ciggys went up to $7.00 bucks a pack and steady going up..I refuse to see $$$ go up in smoke with nada to show for it but an empty pacl to put in the trash.I was two packs a day wich means I spent $98.00 a week on ciggys..figure it up over a year...$5.096.00..yeah lotta money that can go for better things.

I really dont think this is a race issue I think its just NY goverment being greedy.. not to mention that Gov Patterson is legaly Blind...
I hear ya on the $$ part Rock..... i dont smoke... everyone in my family does except me and 1 brother..... I have 4 brothers.
but this is not just about the expense of cigg's alone..... this is all about how the Governor of NY state and what he is trying to push on the Native Americans there..... ya know they tried this with them in the 80's which caused the closing of a major interstate that goes thru there land...... plus that interstate is a TOLL road..... gawwd. that NY is getting money from.
I think the Native Americans there ought to set up there OWN toll booths.
im having a hard time finding some news from when there was a huge up rising bk in the 1980's and the closing of the interstate..
here's a link about it.....
http://www.tobaccobymail.com/PATAKI.htm

The_Lady_Snow · 08-31-2010, 08:02 AM

Unfortunately MS it is about racism as well, look how this person has depicted and emphasized the *violent outbreaks*

So in the article that is mentioned to induce fear that rioting will likely happen.

Cause yanno any other skin color than white riots.....

morningstar55 · 08-31-2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Unfortunately MS it is about racism as well, look how this person has depicted and emphasized the *violent outbreaks*

So in the article that is mentioned to induce fear that rioting will likely happen.

Cause yanno any other skin color than white riots.....

..... but ummm .... the governor is black....
for me i dont care what the skin color is as long as they do right by the people.
I do hear ya Lady.....
my family is kinda mixed...
my niece and nephew are Native American

waxnrope · 08-31-2010, 08:09 AM

Like closing the interstate is a violent act

Medusa · 08-31-2010, 08:10 AM

Native Americans should set up toll booths on every road in this country considering we are all using land that belonged to them in the first place.

The_Lady_Snow · 08-31-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by morningstar55

..... but ummm .... the governor is black....
for me i dont care what the skin color is as long as they do right by the people.
I do hear ya Lady.....
my family is kinda mixed...
my niece and nephew are Native American

His prejudices are making the Native Peoples seem violent, pretty much what whites do to POC. It's unfortunate that in the media it's easy to depict people as violent.

It's gross on all accounts.

waxnrope · 08-31-2010, 09:36 AM

It does not matter if the governor is legally blind, or legally black. It does not matter of some of your best friends are native people. What matters is that this is unequivocally WRONG. It is another example of the patterning, the historicity, of the violation of treaties with indigenous people. The rhetoric of violence is a lie. A bald exaggeration, and, given the decimation of native populations, the theft of their land, AND their culture, including their spiritual practices, we should be appalled and outraged, IMO, that another slap in the face is given under the unspoken "common good." Just fries my grits.

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