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Toughy · 09-03-2010, 07:37 PM

This discussion CAN happen on-line. The premise however must not be a vs concept. The vs concept sets up confrontation whether it be on-line or off-line.

Perhaps it is your OP that was the last straw concerning the vs concept. If the vs thing stops because of this thread then you did a good thing...........whether or not that was your intention.

waxnrope · 09-03-2010, 07:42 PM

Toughy, your pm box is full! Lol
We now return to our regularly scheduled program ....

Toughy · 09-03-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by waxnrope

Toughy, your pm box is full! Lol
We now return to our regularly scheduled program ....

right this moment it is not full.............I can't speak to an hour from now..........laughin........

AtLast...........how about you start this convo over in a new thread. I think I know what you want to talk about. I and many other went all twitchy about the vs. Maybe you have prompted us to be aware of the vs and to find ways to be inclusive. Dig my friend. Reframe the question without the othering dynamic in a new thread.

AtLast · 09-03-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

This discussion CAN happen on-line. The premise however must not be a vs concept. The vs concept sets up confrontation whether it be on-line or off-line.

Perhaps it is your OP that was the last straw concerning the vs concept. If the vs thing stops because of this thread then you did a good thing...........whether or not that was your intention.

Here is my concern at the moment, Toughy. I agree that my opening post was not well written in terms of what I was trying to get at even though the very same words were used in the other thread (which I thought would be evident- my mistake). Due to how it is being misread, I think the whole premise is lost and will remain stuck in semantics even though I explained what was going on.

I asked that it be closed. If the thread is going to be negative to the site, especially in a subject area that just is a sensitive one, it is better for it to be closed. I am fine with accepting my op was not clear and that the title bothered some folks. But, why did't the very same concept offend people in the other thread from the very start? Doesn't really matter at this point. I don't think what I was trying to get at will be discussed here and maybe someone else can get the discussion going in another manner. It's all good.

You know, there have been many times in threads over the years I have been part of B-F sites that I could not understand. sometimes that has been due to grammar or circular thoughts and also to just not being familiar with jargon or a particular vein of thought. Can be lots of things. I do what Snow did, just say I don't get it and ask for clarification, not get defensive and think that the OP has some ulterior motive (no this is not aimed at you).

This is just goofed-up and why let it go on? My sense is that it just isn't going to benefit the site in any way. Best to have it closed and go on.

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