Proposed Mosque Near Ground Zero

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

I was watching Olbermann and there was a young man on with Afghanistan and Iraq Veterans of America who made a good point that I missed. There are still troops at the tip-of-the-spear in Afghanistan. The Afghanis and the foreign fighters who might be in that country to fight the Americans have satellite TV and Internet access as well. They see news that we see through Al Jazeera or the BBC or CNN World. This Saturday a church in Florida is going to burn the Qur'an as a sign of solidarity with the victims and families of 9/11. This young man, in talking about this event, said something that I think is germane here: images of the Qur'an being will be seen in Afghanistan and there are young men and women whose lives will be put at risk. Images of Americans protesting the building of an Islamic community center will be seen in Afghanistan. Those images will put the lives of soldiers at risk.

My son is one of those soldiers. What we do here in America has consequences off shore. Something that perhaps we might want to think about.

Cheers
Aj

Yes, those images will and I am glad that military generals are speaking up about this. No joke about your son and all of the daughters and sons in Afghanistan.

Today while listening to the radio while out, I heard this minister just shine this whole thing on, saying that if more lives were lost, it was not our fault (his congegation planning on doing this), it is Islam's fault. I wanted to climb through the radio waves and smack him. I have a couple of good friends with kids serving in Afghanistan. The thought of them risking their lives for the likes of this minister boils my blood. One of the things our military is trying to accomplish there has to do with changing the way the US is viewed by Muslims. Many are trying to gain trust with a people that have had nothing but war and other countries occuping their country in their country for decades.

I had to just turn the radio off after hearing this- it was in response to Gen. Peteraus (sp?) speaking out about the danger this could escalate for troops. You know, I am actually starting to have physiological responses about this each and every time I hear about the buring, the community center and the coutless bites about anti-Muslim sentiments. My stomach does wrench. I think about my friends (and you, plus other members that have kids/loved ones serving) and think about what it would be like if my kid were there and this was going on. My oldest grand daughter will be 18 soon and what if she decides on a military career? It could happen.

My best to your son, Aj- and I hope these idiots don't do this.

[The_Lady_Snow]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#39049033


Petraeus Expresses Fear For the Troops

[The_Lady_Snow]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/...chris_matthews

[morningstar55]

ya know........Bill O Rilley ... he is a jerk..... and how dare he tell Joy to hush up and that she might learn something..... omg!!
the video clip is in the link below..


If anyone knows how to create water cooler moments on television, it’s the ladies of "The View" and FOX News' Bill O'Reilly. It's no surprise then that putting the two of them together on the same set caused some fireworks.

During a discussion about building a mosque at ground zero -- which O'Reilly is against -- Whoopi Goldberg asks the TV personality why he thinks it would be inappropriate. His response: "Because Muslims killed us on 9/11." This angers Goldberg, who lets an expletive fly out of her mouth before adding that it was religious extremists, and before getting up and walking off the set behind Joy Behar, who herself was angered by the comment.


Barbara Walters apologized for her colleagues' swift departure, which prompted O'Reilly to clarify things. "If anybody thought I was demeaning all Muslims," he said, "I apologize." Goldberg and Behar later returned and the discussion continued. Here's a clip of the entire incident:

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/...c760&GT1=28103

[Nat]

[katsarecool]

I saw the show. He pretty much disgusts me. And Barbara Walters (excuse the profanity) is an ass kisser from way back!!! And that was a lame apology, If I offended anyone... blah blah blah..

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by katsarecool

I saw the show. He pretty much disgusts me. And Barbara Walters (excuse the profanity) is an ass kisser from way back!!! And that was a lame apology, If I offended anyone... blah blah blah..

Very lame. He is such an arrogant ass. And part of a very dangerous group of Faux-News celebs that are bringing more hate to the US. What really pissed me off was the fact that nothing was said about the fact that there were two islamic prayer rooms in the Towers and had been there for many years. What is wrong with people?

[katsarecool]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Very lame. He is such an arrogant ass. And part of a very dangerous group of Faux-News celebs that are bringing more hate to the US. What really pissed me off was the fact that nothing was said about the fact that there were two islamic prayer rooms in the Towers and had been there for many years. What is wrong with people?

I wish I knew the answer to that. I hated the way he treated Joy like she is not intelligent. She is! And then wrapping his piggish arm around her shoulders as if to say "Calm down little lady and listen to what the big man is trying to teach you. " Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by katsarecool

I wish I knew the answer to that. I hated the way he treated Joy like she is not intelligent. She is! And then wrapping his piggish arm around her shoulders as if to say "Calm down little lady and listen to what the big man is trying to teach you. " Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!

I know! And when he told her "Pay attention, you'll learn something." I wanted to smack him! I am so sick of some of these idiots! But, you know what, if people don't get off their bums and vote as well as call out these creeps for what they are, we are on a very ugly road. They are taking full advantage of how difficult things are for so many right now.

[waxnrope]

Originally Posted by katsarecool

I wish I knew the answer to that. I hated the way he treated Joy like she is not intelligent. She is! And then wrapping his piggish arm around her shoulders as if to say "Calm down little lady and listen to what the big man is trying to teach you. " Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!

I so hate it when they do that! Something happens to me, whether I observe it or experience that type of masculinist fuckery. I can feel the neuronal messages going from thought/brain, to body. I can feel the result of my adrenals, pumping hormone, delivering the kick. My heart racing, blood pressure up, breath coming faster, I even get goose flesh. Something, a darkness, enters my person. At this point, I realize the importance of social control. I so want to wipe that smug, self satisfied expression offa the bastard's face ... whew.