Seeking advice from the Butches...Please...

[sweetbutch26]

i agree with stone. femmes are hard to spot. unless i'm hanging upside down from a tree and pounding my chest to see which ones run over to me i don't approach femmes in a public/straight forum. tried it once and got hit with a purse. which hurt like hell. which leads me to ask wtf do you femmes keep in those things? >_<

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by sweetbutch26

i agree with stone. femmes are hard to spot. unless i'm hanging upside down from a tree and pounding my chest to see which ones run over to me i don't approach femmes in a public/straight forum. tried it once and got hit with a purse. which hurt like hell. which leads me to ask wtf do you femmes keep in those things? >_<

OMG do you seriously think we should tell you? Wouldn't that spoil the suspense? Should this have gone in the "answer a question with a question" annoying thread?

[sweetbutch26]

GAH that just made me wonder more. i think you should have a weapons permit to carry a purse.

[princessbelle]

Maybe some of us do *smiles sweetly

[KimKawashima]

Really now, no one should be getting offended about anything out here in this realm. We are all posting about our own point of views and answering honestly as we perceive it. Honestly, their are stereotypes of some sort regardless of our individuality. If you can't embrace them and find humor in them and brush them off, perhaps you should crawl under a rock and stop visiting sites where real people have real opinions. I'm a Boi/Butch/Daddie/Master and I look like a Guy and act Masculine. My Femme is a Baby Girl/Femme/Slave. She acts like a Femme, looks like a Femme etc. No one would guess she is a Lesbian. Hence the Names we give ourselves, hence the Stereotypes otherwise their wouldn't be these labels, yes? Smile and be happy and get over it.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by KimKawashima

Really now, no one should be getting offended about anything out here in this realm. We are all posting about our own point of views and answering honestly as we perceive it. Honestly, their are stereotypes of some sort regardless of our individuality. If you can't embrace them and find humor in them and brush them off, perhaps you should crawl under a rock and stop visiting sites where real people have real opinions. I'm a Boi/Butch/Daddie/Master and I look like a Guy and act Masculine. My Femme is a Baby Girl/Femme/Slave. She acts like a Femme, looks like a Femme etc. No one would guess she is a Lesbian. Hence the Names we give ourselves, hence the Stereotypes otherwise their wouldn't be these labels, yes? Smile and be happy and get over it.

*s*

I am ok with calling out stereotypes.

I am not fond of sexism either and ok with calling that out as well.

[KimKawashima]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

*s*

I am ok with calling out stereotypes.

I am not fond of sexism either and ok with calling that out as well.

That wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just I have seen too much whining about "...don't use stereotypes, I'm offended..." So I was just nipping it in the butt before too much whining occurred. Whiners are one of my pet peeves. This entire site is full of so many different people and lets be honest, some of us can be lumped together under labels, but yes admittedly some of us can not be, we are exceptions to the rules and categories. I love all my brothers and sisters equally and enjoy all of our craziness and differences. Our lives are complicated enough and we don't need whiners and complainers to drag us down. So I was just making a point....If you can't stand the heat get the F out of the kitchen.

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by KimKawashima

Really now, no one should be getting offended about anything out here in this realm. We are all posting about our own point of views and answering honestly as we perceive it. Honestly, their are stereotypes of some sort regardless of our individuality. If you can't embrace them and find humor in them and brush them off, perhaps you should crawl under a rock and stop visiting sites where real people have real opinions. I'm a Boi/Butch/Daddie/Master and I look like a Guy and act Masculine. My Femme is a Baby Girl/Femme/Slave. She acts like a Femme, looks like a Femme etc. No one would guess she is a Lesbian. Hence the Names we give ourselves, hence the Stereotypes otherwise their wouldn't be these labels, yes? Smile and be happy and get over it.

The very notion that the people who spoke of their offense need to get a sense of humor is, in itself, hilarious, and also, a little offensive.

It's not about lacking a sense of humor, it's about not wanting to embrace degrading, old fashioned and absurd stereotypes of the people we are not. Accepting stereotypes isn't something anyone should have to sit comfortably with.

Stereotypes and labels are not the same thing. My "label" does not instantly attribute to me a plethora of behaviors or attributes that speak to who I am. If they do, then someone isn't paying attention.

Again, I suggest evolution, it's a remarkable tool.

[KimKawashima]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

The very notion that the people who spoke of their offense need to get a sense of humor is, in itself, hilarious, and also, a little offensive.

It's not about lacking a sense of humor, it's about not wanting to embrace degrading, old fashioned and absurd stereotypes of the people we are not. Accepting stereotypes isn't something anyone should have to sit comfortably with.

Stereotypes and labels are not the same thing. My "label" does not instantly attribute to me a plethora of behaviors or attributes that speak to who I am. If they do, then someone isn't paying attention.

Again, I suggest evolution, it's a remarkable tool.

I suppose you can slap another "label" on a word all you want but the action remains the some. So okay, my evolved word for "stereotype" is "label."

[Blade]

I seriously doubt a femme would hit one of us with her purse, we need to know what femmes keep in them cuz we would suspect straight women keep the same things in them. So umm like we know what we are up against when it hits our head.

Originally Posted by princessbelle

OMG do you seriously think we should tell you? Wouldn't that spoil the suspense? Should this have gone in the "answer a question with a question" annoying thread?

[sweetbutch26]

yea what he said

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by Blade

I seriously doubt a femme would hit one of us with her purse, we need to know what femmes keep in them cuz we would suspect straight women keep the same things in them. So umm like we know what we are up against when it hits our head.

You don't need to know. It won't hurt any less....just embrace the moment

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by sweetbutch26

i agree with stone. femmes are hard to spot. unless i'm hanging upside down from a tree and pounding my chest to see which ones run over to me i don't approach femmes in a public/straight forum. tried it once and got hit with a purse. which hurt like hell. which leads me to ask wtf do you femmes keep in those things? >_<

I have a question to ask.

Do you really hang upside down from trees and pound your chest?

I'm a femme, with some age and I have to say I have never

EVER experienced this when dating or trying to get a date from a butch.

Is this how you see femme's?

I won't even go into the whole purse thing.

I have to all this oogey stuff being said about how femme's are or are being perceived to be is

rude and oogey.

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I have a question to ask.

Do you really hang upside down from trees and pound your chest?

I'm a femme, with some age and I have to say I have never

EVER experienced this when dating or trying to get a date from a butch.

Is this how you see femme's?

I won't even go into the whole purse thing.

I have to all this oogey stuff being said about how femme's are or are being perceived to be is

rude and oogey.

I've been really struggling with how this thread seems to be all about perpetuating tired, and not so true, stereotypes.

I'm really sort of all about evolution.

[sweetbutch26]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I have a question to ask.

Do you really hang upside down from trees and pound your chest?

I'm a femme, with some age and I have to say I have never

EVER experienced this when dating or trying to get a date from a butch.

Is this how you see femme's?

I won't even go into the whole purse thing.

I have to all this oogey stuff being said about how femme's are or are being perceived to be is

rude and oogey.

I was joking. and what i was telling caustic is that sometimes femmes and straight ladies are hard to separate. so it would be easier for her to approach a butch so they know where she stands. and yes i mistook a straight lady for a femme once and got hit with a purse

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by sweetbutch26

I was joking. and what i was telling caustic is that sometimes femmes and straight ladies are hard to separate. so it would be easier for her to approach a butch so they know where she stands. and yes i mistook a straight lady for a femme once and got hit with a purse

*s*

straight women and femme's are two different animals.

and thank you for explaining.

I will be honest the stereotypes being thrown are offensive to me as a *femme*

I thank you for the dialogue.

[Julie]

Originally Posted by sweetbutch26

i agree with stone. femmes are hard to spot. unless i'm hanging upside down from a tree and pounding my chest to see which ones run over to me i don't approach femmes in a public/straight forum. tried it once and got hit with a purse. which hurt like hell. which leads me to ask wtf do you femmes keep in those things? >_<

I carry in my purse... An autographed copy of Jack Nicholson's book - "I am really not a Misogynistic Pig."

As well as... Stereotypical Butch Repellent

[betenoire]

In my purse I carry whatever I happen to be reading at the moment, my new Nintendo DSi (woo!), a black magic marker, and my cigarettes.

I do not carry a lighter. Instead I just stand around holding my cigarette to my lips and looking helpless until some drooling masculine type rushes up to light it for me.

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by betenoire

I do not carry a lighter. Instead I just stand around holding my cigarette to my lips and looking helpless until some drooling masculine type rushes up to light it for me.

Hey *darlin'* let me get that for you.

[betenoire]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Hey *darlin'* let me get that for you.

Oh swoony swoon swoon!

I forgot to mention that I also have no money in my purse and I expect you to pay for stuff. 'kay? 'Kay!