Stone Butches

DapperButch · 11-18-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

I'm pretty sure there are also plenty of TG butches who are not stone butches. So the two may be connected, but not always.

A TG butch and/or male might enjoy penetration, for example, whereas a stone butch who considers herself a woman may not. That's just an example. It doesn't make anyone less or more male/female, woman/man, TG, third gender, etc.

Right, I agree with this line of thinking; being stone has nothing to do with one's gender or one's sex.

morningstar55 · 11-18-2010, 03:38 PM

YAYYYYYYYY my truck is fixed and im now just waiting for dispatch to give me a load to do....

rlin · 11-18-2010, 04:16 PM

this is a timely thread for me... not too long ago at all i realized that i was shedding the ease with which i could share myself...
when i was very young... i did not share me... in my middle decades... say... 25 to 45 i was really ok with rolling over and over and over...
i have never ever really wanted to be fucked... i could stand to have someones mouth on me... have actually enjoyed the hell out of it b4...
also... touch being what it is i enjoyed that too...
the last little while tho... i am coming to the realization that i may be becoming stone... i just do not want to be touched... by anyone... i am very lucky in that i have a pretty good relationship with what some call tantric techniques... i call the a life saver...
i have been looking at all angles of this part of my psyche that is causing me to need to protect myself... and... i think that may be as simple as that for me...
protecting myself...
i love women... i want to never have to do without a woman... but... i think i could do without a woman touching me for the rest of my life...
i just dont want it...

someone weigh in here... would this indeed make me stone... or someone that is having an issue right now..
??

DapperButch · 11-18-2010, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlin

this is a timely thread for me... not too long ago at all i realized that i was shedding the ease with which i could share myself...
when i was very young... i did not share me... in my middle decades... say... 25 to 45 i was really ok with rolling over and over and over...
i have never ever really wanted to be fucked... i could stand to have someones mouth on me... have actually enjoyed the hell out of it b4...
also... touch being what it is i enjoyed that too...
the last little while tho... i am coming to the realization that i may be becoming stone... i just do not want to be touched... by anyone... i am very lucky in that i have a pretty good relationship with what some call tantric techniques... i call the a life saver...
i have been looking at all angles of this part of my psyche that is causing me to need to protect myself... and... i think that may be as simple as that for me...
protecting myself...
i love women... i want to never have to do without a woman... but... i think i could do without a woman touching me for the rest of my life...
i just dont want it...

someone weigh in here... would this indeed make me stone... or someone that is having an issue right now..
??

Could be either. That is something that only you can answer, I'm afraid.

For me, being Stone has never been about feeling a need to protect myself.

I just find all the pleasure I need in pleasing the other. That is where I glean my pleasure. Mental orgasm.

P.S. I think it is really healthy that you are questioning which it is, rather than just assuming that all of a sudden you have become stone. A lot of folks would do just that, so that they wouldn't have to deal with it. I respect that and I think it is pretty cool that you are willing to put that out here.

rlin · 11-18-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

P.S. I think it is really healthy that you are questioning which it is, rather than just assuming that all of a sudden you have become stone. A lot of folks would do just that, so that they wouldn't have to deal with it. I respect that and I think it is pretty cool that you are willing to put that out here.

unfortunately i have already figured out that i am going to be one of those elderly butches that really just doesnt give a jolly damn about appearances... i mean... i guess i could think of something that might bother me... but... i sorta feel like i have a small amount of anonymity around these parts...

i like what you said about the mental orgasm from enjoying my lover... that is the biggest and hardest thing i missed when i was younger and had to make myself share...

and...

thanks for the thoughts about figuring it out before i call it... tho i think that if i continue with the way i feel right now i will end up being stone... quid pro quo...

Legendryder · 11-18-2010, 06:21 PM

Stone here. Have been for as long as I can remember. For me it is in the mind as well. Really don't like my junk touched. .02

morningstar55 · 02-22-2011, 08:11 PM

bumpty bump

Electrocell · 07-01-2011, 08:44 PM

Now this looks like a thread I need to subscribe to.

MysticOceansFL · 11-28-2011, 07:20 AM

A stone butch is a woman who is strongly masculine in character and dress, who tops their partners sexually (and sometimes emotionally), and who does not wish to be touched genitally. Not all stone butches identify in female terms, some are known to identify with male pronouns, and many stone butches - not all, but many - do not identify themselves with lesbian or within the lesbian community. A common partner for a stone butch is a Stone Femme, who is a femme who bottoms sexually or who wishes not to touch the genitals of her stone butch partner. This is not one hundred percent of the former or latter but is a overall old school pattern. Butches are very diverse in emotion and sexual expression.

rande · 05-05-2012, 06:40 PM

It took a long time for me to know that I wasn't the only one who got their sexual pleasure through pleasing their partner...mental orgasm, exactly.
For years, I thought I was bonkers...then one day I read Stone Butch Blues and wept openly, for the first time in years.

At long last I was able to identify myself as a human being....a living, breathing person....a stone butch.

I think I should have been born male, but it didn't happen. But that isn't what makes me stone.

It's my lack of desire to be touched in certain areas that makes me stone.
For me, its enough to have my partner lay close.....and kissing marathons are amazing too.

RockOn · 10-22-2013, 11:43 PM

Another stone butch checking in ...

Good topic!

Tuff Stuff · 08-24-2015, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Legendryder

Stone here. Have been for as long as I can remember. For me it is in the mind as well. Really don't like my junk touched. .02

Well,after reading most of the posts here (btw,i read the last posts first) I would say i'm definitely not a stone butch.I like my "Junk" to be touched.I like the way my woman grabs on to my tits...umm,i think thats another thread..i'll be looking for it *snort*

StoicStone · 06-06-2017, 08:54 AM

I am an old stone butch. Back in the day, as they say, I was told by other stones in my area that stone meant the butch had no desire to be penetrated and the femme had no desire to penetrate anyone. There could be any varying degree of what boundary the butch or femme had as to touching the butch in any other way and they needed to state their boundaries to each other..but it was generally true that a stone butch did not want their junk touched at all..no touching below the waist. Some of us wanted no touching of any female part on our bodies. The butch usually looked a bit more masculine physically, i.e more narrow hips, masculine dress, but it was not always the case, and the femmes...well they just looked like str8 women pretty much.
The same was true for the mentality , with butches having a more masculine way of thinking, but not necessarily just like biological males, and femmes just, well, thinking like girls.
Everything seems to be a bit more fluid these days and I am no longer sure what exactly stone can be defined as, or even if sexuality can be defined and labeled at all. All I know is I have always identified as stone,and still qualify by the old definition easily, so stone I am lol

11-18-2010, 03:38 PM	#2
morningstar55 Senior Member How Do You Identify?: femme,she Preferred Pronoun?: she,her, Relationship Status: very single Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: western NY Posts: 3,809 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,280 Thanked 4,240 Times in 1,845 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	YAYYYYYYYY my truck is fixed and im now just waiting for dispatch to give me a load to do.... __________________ -------------------------------------------- life is to short to wake up in the morning with regrets so love the people who treat you right, forget about the ones who dont, and believe that everything happens for a reason. If you get a chance take it... if it changes your life let it.

02-22-2011, 08:11 PM	#7
morningstar55 Senior Member How Do You Identify?: femme,she Preferred Pronoun?: she,her, Relationship Status: very single Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: western NY Posts: 3,809 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,280 Thanked 4,240 Times in 1,845 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	bumpty bump __________________ -------------------------------------------- life is to short to wake up in the morning with regrets so love the people who treat you right, forget about the ones who dont, and believe that everything happens for a reason. If you get a chance take it... if it changes your life let it.

07-01-2011, 08:44 PM	#8
Electrocell Member How Do You Identify?: Stonebutch Preferred Pronoun?: he/hy Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: TN Posts: 1,334 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 7,535 Thanked 2,768 Times in 981 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Hey Stones Now this looks like a thread I need to subscribe to. __________________ Love and accept me for me not someone you want me to be.

11-28-2011, 07:20 AM	#9
MysticOceansFL Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch, Preferred Pronoun?: People call me by my nic name. Relationship Status: Not Single, Not Desperate. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 3,833 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,645 Thanked 4,033 Times in 1,720 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	A stone butch is a woman who is strongly masculine in character and dress, who tops their partners sexually (and sometimes emotionally), and who does not wish to be touched genitally. Not all stone butches identify in female terms, some are known to identify with male pronouns, and many stone butches - not all, but many - do not identify themselves with lesbian or within the lesbian community. A common partner for a stone butch is a Stone Femme, who is a femme who bottoms sexually or who wishes not to touch the genitals of her stone butch partner. This is not one hundred percent of the former or latter but is a overall old school pattern. Butches are very diverse in emotion and sexual expression. __________________ Faith is not belief without proof, but trust without reservation. It is said, " Some lives are linked across time..... Connected by an ancient calling that echoes through the ages "......

05-05-2012, 06:40 PM	#10
rande Junior Member How Do You Identify?: stone butch Preferred Pronoun?: He Join Date: May 2012 Location: san francisco Posts: 9 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 8 Thanked 111 Times in 9 Posts Rep Power: 0	Stone Butch It took a long time for me to know that I wasn't the only one who got their sexual pleasure through pleasing their partner...mental orgasm, exactly. For years, I thought I was bonkers...then one day I read Stone Butch Blues and wept openly, for the first time in years. At long last I was able to identify myself as a human being....a living, breathing person....a stone butch. I think I should have been born male, but it didn't happen. But that isn't what makes me stone. It's my lack of desire to be touched in certain areas that makes me stone. For me, its enough to have my partner lay close.....and kissing marathons are amazing too.

11-18-2010, 04:16 PM	#3
rlin Member How Do You Identify?: human Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: nomad Posts: 712 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,450 Thanked 1,189 Times in 451 Posts Rep Power: 1004849	this is a timely thread for me... not too long ago at all i realized that i was shedding the ease with which i could share myself... when i was very young... i did not share me... in my middle decades... say... 25 to 45 i was really ok with rolling over and over and over... i have never ever really wanted to be fucked... i could stand to have someones mouth on me... have actually enjoyed the hell out of it b4... also... touch being what it is i enjoyed that too... the last little while tho... i am coming to the realization that i may be becoming stone... i just do not want to be touched... by anyone... i am very lucky in that i have a pretty good relationship with what some call tantric techniques... i call the a life saver... i have been looking at all angles of this part of my psyche that is causing me to need to protect myself... and... i think that may be as simple as that for me... protecting myself... i love women... i want to never have to do without a woman... but... i think i could do without a woman touching me for the rest of my life... i just dont want it... someone weigh in here... would this indeed make me stone... or someone that is having an issue right now.. ??

11-18-2010, 06:21 PM	#6
Legendryder Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Queen City, MO Posts: 420 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 14 Thanked 969 Times in 261 Posts Rep Power: 7270131	Stone here. Have been for as long as I can remember. For me it is in the mind as well. Really don't like my junk touched. .02

10-22-2013, 11:43 PM	#11
RockOn Senior Member How Do You Identify?: sitting over there ----->>>>> :) Preferred Pronoun?: .... Relationship Status: .... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .... Posts: 3,522 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,081 Thanked 10,304 Times in 2,610 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	Another stone butch checking in ... Good topic!

06-06-2017, 08:54 AM	#13
StoicStone Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Stone Butch.............. Preferred Pronoun?: No preference............... Relationship Status: single............... Join Date: May 2017 Location: Washington.................. Posts: 35 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 0 Thanked 135 Times in 31 Posts Rep Power: 445522	I am an old stone butch. Back in the day, as they say, I was told by other stones in my area that stone meant the butch had no desire to be penetrated and the femme had no desire to penetrate anyone. There could be any varying degree of what boundary the butch or femme had as to touching the butch in any other way and they needed to state their boundaries to each other..but it was generally true that a stone butch did not want their junk touched at all..no touching below the waist. Some of us wanted no touching of any female part on our bodies. The butch usually looked a bit more masculine physically, i.e more narrow hips, masculine dress, but it was not always the case, and the femmes...well they just looked like str8 women pretty much. The same was true for the mentality , with butches having a more masculine way of thinking, but not necessarily just like biological males, and femmes just, well, thinking like girls. Everything seems to be a bit more fluid these days and I am no longer sure what exactly stone can be defined as, or even if sexuality can be defined and labeled at all. All I know is I have always identified as stone,and still qualify by the old definition easily, so stone I am lol Last edited by StoicStone; 06-06-2017 at 08:55 AM. Reason: my typing sucks