Science and Exploration

dark_crystal · 01-15-2011, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkey

I'm not sure I'd want to survive in a post-human world, and technically isn't that an oxymoron?

well, there was totally a pre-human world

idk i have this complicated theory about

the Adam/Eve/Apple/Knowledge story

being code for

Primates/habitat-loss-leading-to-increased-meat-eating-leading-to-brain-development-explosion/knowledge

so now i am enjoying the idea of all of the apocalypse stories being code for the leap to post-human sentience

that's maybe a little woo-woo for this thread but it has its roots in science at least :lol:

Corkey · 01-15-2011, 01:16 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...ckbeards-sword

Corkey · 01-16-2011, 12:41 AM

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70E29E20110116

Excellent news for the Buffalo!

sharkchomp · 01-16-2011, 01:05 PM

That is great news Corkey. It's also a reflection of hard work by scientists biologists that worked hard to get that healthy herd of bison. I saw a documentary on the bison and that disease and the struggles between the cattlemen and park rangers/scientists and biologists. A lot of bison were killed to satisfy cattlemen and the park officials worked so hard to keep the herd within the confines of the park. It's nice to see an American icon get a W (win).

~~~shark~~~~~~~

Corkey · 01-16-2011, 05:56 PM

All differently abled people MUST see this!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/video/health-1...again-23868851

Corkey · 01-17-2011, 12:38 PM

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...ideos/09548_00

This Thursday night.

Corkey · 01-17-2011, 05:17 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110117...20110117104445

I have some serious concerns about this, from the gestation to a live birth, it's going to be very difficult.

dreadgeek · 01-20-2011, 06:34 PM

Saw this at Huffington Post and thought I would get a jump on it.

Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.

Dr. Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland, outlined the scenario to news.com.au. Betelgeuse, one of the night sky's brightest stars, is losing mass, indicating it is collapsing. It could run out of fuel and go super-nova at any time.

When that happens, for at least a few weeks, we'd see a second sun, Carter says. There may also be no night during that timeframe.

The Star Wars-esque scenario could happen by 2012, Carter says... or it could take longer. The explosion could also cause a neutron star or result in the formation of a black hole 1300 light years from Earth, reports news.com.au.

But doomsday sayers should be careful about speculation on this one. If the star does go super-nova, Earth will be showered with harmless particles, according to Carter. "They will flood through the Earth and bizarrely enough, even though the supernova we see visually will light up the night sky, 99 per cent of the energy in the supernova is released in these particles that will come through our bodies and through the Earth with absolutely no harm whatsoever," he told news.com.au.

In fact, a neutrino shower could be beneficial to Earth. According to Carter this "star stuff" makes up the universe. "It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium....a star like Betelgeuse is instantly forming for us all sorts of heavy elements and atoms that our own Earth and our own bodies have from long past supernovi," said Carter.

So firstly, if anyone tries to tell you that this has something to do with the Mayan prophecies--it doesn't. IF this star has exploded, it did so 1300 years ago (that's what it means to say that something is 1300 light years away, when you look at some star, you are not seeing it as it is this moment. You are seeing it as it was.). Secondly, even IF it forms a black hole (and that would be the coolest thing EVER if it did) it will have no effect on us. We are altogether too far away for a stellar-mass black hole to capture us (to give you an example for contrast there is a supermassive black hole (several BILLION stellar masses!) at the center of our galaxy. While our solar system orbits that black hole, we are not being drawn into it. So a black hole created from a mere star (even one as massive as Betelgeuse) is no threat to us if it is 1300 l.y. away.

Lastly, don't worry about neutrinos passing through you. Every second of every day, billions of neutrinos pass through the Earth. These particles are so tiny that in order to detect them special detectors have to be built--at the base of abandoned mines, in pools of water.

Cheers
Aj

MsDemeanor · 01-21-2011, 12:32 AM

The hysterical freak out from this one is going to be fun!! Kinda makes one want to invest in duct tape and canned goods stocks.

Corkey · 01-22-2011, 03:34 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110122...enlandicesheet

Corkey · 01-27-2011, 07:17 PM

Tonight on NGO Feathered Dinomorphsis!

Linus · 02-17-2011, 10:43 PM

If you ever need perspective, check this out: http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/

Corkey · 02-20-2011, 02:11 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110220/..._cosmic_census

MsDemeanor · 02-20-2011, 11:35 AM

Is it possible to post something that gives us an idea of what's in the article links? My slow old computer sometimes has issues with links, and it's frustrating to wait and wait and wait for a link to come up just to find out that it's an article I'm not interested in.

Thanks!

Corkey · 02-20-2011, 01:39 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_sci_oil_spill_lingers

Gulf oil spill continues to kill.

Corkey · 02-21-2011, 03:22 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110221...ippinesvolcano

Volcano eruption in Philippines.

01-15-2011, 01:16 PM	#2
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01-16-2011, 12:41 AM	#3
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01-16-2011, 01:05 PM	#4
sharkchomp Member How Do You Identify?: TG/stone butch Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Single Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Knoxville Posts: 426 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 419 Thanked 1,343 Times in 309 Posts Rep Power: 9701639	That is great news Corkey. It's also a reflection of hard work by scientists biologists that worked hard to get that healthy herd of bison. I saw a documentary on the bison and that disease and the struggles between the cattlemen and park rangers/scientists and biologists. A lot of bison were killed to satisfy cattlemen and the park officials worked so hard to keep the herd within the confines of the park. It's nice to see an American icon get a W (win). ~~~shark~~~~~~~ __________________ take a fish boating

01-16-2011, 05:56 PM	#5
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01-17-2011, 12:38 PM	#6
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01-17-2011, 05:17 PM	#7
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01-20-2011, 06:34 PM	#8
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02-21-2011, 03:22 PM	#16
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