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Old 05-02-2011, 03:53 PM   #1
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Osama Bin Laden is dead.

Will this in any way contribute to global peace or safety?

Absolutely not.


What things would contribute to global peace and safety?
A critical mass of humans would need to want world peace and safety in order to sustain it....genuinely. My view from the sidelines watching the news it doesn't look like the right amount of people are ready for that to happen. When the right amount of people in the world finally decide to come together under the same umbrella to offer peace and love then the scale will tip and a chain reaction will take place. When governments stop putting profit before their people. When leaders believe the welfare of others as important as their own self preservation. When big corporations no longer are considered entities and have no power over the people. When skin color and gender no longer matter.

Pakistan didn't give up their airspace and allow us to go in there and get this guy without giving them something. I am wondering what it is we had to bargain with in order to make this happen. Understanding that...bad intentions create bad intentions which keeps the critical mass scale tipping towards evil. No peace will be had from the events that have taken place over the past few days.

Now I am off to chase the money trail and find out what we had to give up to get this guy!!!

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Supposedly the death of Bin Laden will help us in our negotiations with the Taliban. i am not sure i understand why. i gather that the fewer foreigners influencing the Taliban, the better. Apparently the foreigners tend to be more radical than even the Taliban. We are negotiating with the Taliban in preparation for leaving Afghanistan. We need to be very effective and guarantee freedom and opportunity for women. We must negotiate with them, but we can't give away too much.

We can help Egypt make sure that their young people have a hope of employment if we don't want fundamentalism to gain ground there. Egypt is more important than Libya ever will be. We need to pay attention to it. We can start by forgiving their debt to us. Millions of new jobs need to be created there if there is a hope for a democratic future. If the efforts to create a democracy in Egypt fail, then it makes the efforts of all the other nations much less likely to succeed.

We need to get out of Iraq. Withdraw.

At home, we can punish the corporations and entities that cause serious economic and environmental damage, like BP and the financial executives that knowingly perpetuated schemes dangerous to the economy and to individual homeowners and investors.

We can tax corporations like GE. Good people need to have a sense that there is justice before they can invest in public life and work to make changes.
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