"straight" women and Butches.

Soon · 05-08-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

Is it easier for them to go for a butch,because visually they can maybe have the best of both worlds ?

Male looks,female anatomy ?

For me: Female masculinity is hot.

It's not about the *best of both worlds*--it is about being aware of one's desires--and that goes both ways for butches as well as the femmes...and all people, no?

Quintease · 05-08-2011, 05:13 PM

I realise this is a bit off topic, but I've seen women go completely gaga over my bf when they find out he's trans ? What is it that they are looking for I wonder, how do they imagine he'd be different to any other guy?

I've never been butch but I have attracted a fair amount of straight women in my youth, so I'm not so weirded out by the straight girl/butch thing. I figure it's the woman-thing that attracts them, rather than any particular ID, just like some women like feminine men and some like masculine, so what you like tends to cross genders. I don't think it's necessarily a 'queer' attraction however, as straight doesn't mean narrow. If they were all porn would be the same, all kink would be the same and they'd all wear the same kind of underwear ... oh wait!

Merlin · 05-08-2011, 05:21 PM

What group June ? I will have a peek.

Tuff Stuff · 08-24-2015, 01:57 PM

I don't know.I guess some straight women are naturally drawn to anyone that looks and acts masculine...maybe being with me they did have the best of both worlds.With my current gf,i'd say the same could ring true...I was attracted to her femininity,even though she is not a femme...she's definitely a lesbian,though.

How come this statement makes me sad?...*shrugs*

Quintease · 05-08-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by June

This could be fetish-ization (What is the real word I am looking for?)

I suspected as much. It's a bit rubbish, sleeping with someone just to add to your life experience, though I guess it could be fun if you didn't mind being objectified..

Strappie · 05-08-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintease

I suspected as much. It's a bit rubbish, sleeping with someone just to add to your life experience, though I guess it could be fun if you didn't mind being objectified..

Someone... PLEASE OBJECTIFY ME.... lmao!

Merlin · 05-08-2011, 05:27 PM

Like June put,sometimes we see things differently this side of the pond .. It doesn't make your thoughts or our thoughts any less topical.

Martina · 05-08-2011, 06:50 PM

Some of them are probably straight, and some are not. Like dykes who fuck men. Some may be developing a different sexual orientation, and some are just turned on by a guy or guys. We have no way to know.

i think it's only decent of you to assume that her motivations are that she likes you and wants to fuck you. Why interrogate her motivations unless she has given you reason to doubt them? Clearly you have dated straight women before. Is something about this one making you have doubts?

intrigue_in916 · 06-22-2011, 02:02 AM

[QUOTE=HowSoonIsNow;335284]For me: Female masculinity is hot.

It's not about the *best of both worlds*--it is about being aware of one's desires--and that goes both ways for butches as well as the femmes...and all people, no?[/QUOTE

I throughly agree that female masculinity is hott. I believe that a feminine lesbian compliments her masculine lesbian partner. Im quite frankly all the feminine woman i need.

Nat · 06-22-2011, 02:45 AM

There is so much I could say here, but it's late and I've already started over like 5 times. So here's an unorganized smattering:

Straight women can be fun as long as you don't fall in love with them and as long as they don't fall in love with you. At least, I've found them fun.

My partner has a long history of falling for straight women. She likes feminine women. Most of them have been straight. I'm the first femme she's been with. Heaven forbid we ever break up, but if we did, I'm pretty sure she'd keep dating femmes rather than going back to straight girls. I think it's pretty heart-wrenching to spend your life falling for women who will always be more interested in another gender than your own.

On a totally different note - I have known some butches who tend to measure/validate their masculinity by defining their partners as "straight" whether or not they actually are. As though straight women being interested in them gives them some sort of cachet. When I first came out, I dated a butch (briefly) who would have preferred to define me as straight in order to serve her own ego. It's hard to explain, but I've run into that attitude plenty.

Chazz · 06-27-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nat

There is so much I could say here, but it's late and I've already started over like 5 times. So here's an unorganized smattering:

Straight women can be fun as long as you don't fall in love with them and as long as they don't fall in love with you. At least, I've found them fun.

My partner has a long history of falling for straight women. She likes feminine women. Most of them have been straight. I'm the first femme she's been with. Heaven forbid we ever break up, but if we did, I'm pretty sure she'd keep dating femmes rather than going back to straight girls. I think it's pretty heart-wrenching to spend your life falling for women who will always be more interested in another gender than your own.

On a totally different note - I have known some butches who tend to measure/validate their masculinity by defining their partners as "straight" whether or not they actually are. As though straight women being interested in them gives them some sort of cachet. When I first came out, I dated a butch (briefly) who would have preferred to define me as straight in order to serve her own ego. It's hard to explain, but I've run into that attitude plenty.

Some people just can't move beyond a dominant culture, gender paradigm.

Butches do it to other butches, too.

05-08-2011, 05:13 PM	#2
Quintease Member How Do You Identify?: Rainbow femme Preferred Pronoun?: princess Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 514 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 508 Thanked 1,817 Times in 417 Posts Rep Power: 10560327	I realise this is a bit off topic, but I've seen women go completely gaga over my bf when they find out he's trans ? What is it that they are looking for I wonder, how do they imagine he'd be different to any other guy? I've never been butch but I have attracted a fair amount of straight women in my youth, so I'm not so weirded out by the straight girl/butch thing. I figure it's the woman-thing that attracts them, rather than any particular ID, just like some women like feminine men and some like masculine, so what you like tends to cross genders. I don't think it's necessarily a 'queer' attraction however, as straight doesn't mean narrow. If they were all porn would be the same, all kink would be the same and they'd all wear the same kind of underwear ... oh wait! __________________ It is not worth an intelligent person's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

05-08-2011, 05:21 PM	#3
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05-08-2011, 05:27 PM	#7
Merlin Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: Knight in shining armour. Relationship Status: Spoken for Join Date: May 2011 Location: England Posts: 250 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 87 Thanked 547 Times in 170 Posts Rep Power: 6763778	Like June put,sometimes we see things differently this side of the pond .. It doesn't make your thoughts or our thoughts any less topical. __________________ https://youtu.be/IWvEXChflEE

06-22-2011, 02:02 AM	#9
intrigue_in916 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Feminine Lesbian Woman Preferred Pronoun?: just dont refer to me as a 'YOU PEOPLE' or say'HEY YOU' to me Relationship Status: single Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Folsom CA. Posts: 76 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 110 Thanked 133 Times in 55 Posts Rep Power: 289028	[QUOTE=HowSoonIsNow;335284]For me: Female masculinity is hot. It's not about the best of both worlds--it is about being aware of one's desires--and that goes both ways for butches as well as the femmes...and all people, no?[/QUOTE I throughly agree that female masculinity is hott. I believe that a feminine lesbian compliments her masculine lesbian partner. Im quite frankly all the feminine woman i need. __________________ Intriguinglyours

06-22-2011, 02:45 AM	#10
Nat Senior Member How Do You Identify?: bigender (DID System) Preferred Pronoun?: he/him or alter-specific Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Central TX Posts: 3,537 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,047 Thanked 13,967 Times in 2,589 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	There is so much I could say here, but it's late and I've already started over like 5 times. So here's an unorganized smattering: Straight women can be fun as long as you don't fall in love with them and as long as they don't fall in love with you. At least, I've found them fun. My partner has a long history of falling for straight women. She likes feminine women. Most of them have been straight. I'm the first femme she's been with. Heaven forbid we ever break up, but if we did, I'm pretty sure she'd keep dating femmes rather than going back to straight girls. I think it's pretty heart-wrenching to spend your life falling for women who will always be more interested in another gender than your own. On a totally different note - I have known some butches who tend to measure/validate their masculinity by defining their partners as "straight" whether or not they actually are. As though straight women being interested in them gives them some sort of cachet. When I first came out, I dated a butch (briefly) who would have preferred to define me as straight in order to serve her own ego. It's hard to explain, but I've run into that attitude plenty. __________________ I'm a fountain of blood. In the shape of a girl. - Bjork What is to give light must endure burning. -Viktor Frankl

08-24-2015, 01:57 PM	#4
Tuff Stuff Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Woman Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Married Join Date: May 2013 Location: California Posts: 695 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 904 Thanked 1,315 Times in 505 Posts Rep Power: 9408454	I don't know.I guess some straight women are naturally drawn to anyone that looks and acts masculine...maybe being with me they did have the best of both worlds.With my current gf,i'd say the same could ring true...I was attracted to her femininity,even though she is not a femme...she's definitely a lesbian,though. How come this statement makes me sad?...shrugs

05-08-2011, 06:50 PM	#8
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,284 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	Some of them are probably straight, and some are not. Like dykes who fuck men. Some may be developing a different sexual orientation, and some are just turned on by a guy or guys. We have no way to know. i think it's only decent of you to assume that her motivations are that she likes you and wants to fuck you. Why interrogate her motivations unless she has given you reason to doubt them? Clearly you have dated straight women before. Is something about this one making you have doubts?