All things English/American

[Sparkle]

Originally Posted by Merlin

Have any of you americans had a fry up or a Sunday dinner ??

I make a goooood sunday roast, my former mother-in-law taught me how to disguise the parsnips as roast potatoes too.

I'm not fan of milky tea, and I detest instant coffee...but I managed just fine in blighty.

Originally Posted by Sparkle

I make a goooood sunday roast, my former mother-in-law taught me how to disguise the parsnips as roast potatoes too.

I'm not fan of milky tea, and I detest instant coffee...but I managed just fine in blighty.

Roast parsnips are yum and a must with Sunday lunch.


Now here we get what I think is a funny usage of UK English...

Do you 'mericans (to include all the races and nationalities who inhabit North America where this website is based) have dinner at lunch-time and tea at dinner time? Or is it always lunch in the middle of the day and dinner or supper at the end of the day?

Merlin I bet you have dinner and tea don't ya? I do at home but with Un-Mrs.I we have lunch and dinner.

How about you other Brits here too?

[Bit]

Originally Posted by Incubus

Do you 'mericans (to include all the races and nationalities who inhabit North America where this website is based) have dinner at lunch-time and tea at dinner time? Or is it always lunch in the middle of the day and dinner or supper at the end of the day?

I grew up always having lunch in the middle of the day, supper as the evening meal, and "dinner" only when it was formal--like the lunchtime "Sunday dinner." Tea time, as I understand it, is earlier than supper time; supper was always after work, so anywhere between 5:30 and 7 p.m.

[Gayla]

I don't know what a fry up is either.

Growing up, in a rural/farming community in Texas, the midday meal was called dinner and the evening meal was called supper. Dinner was usually a larger meal and, during certain times of the year was packed up and taken to the field so that everyone could eat together. Supper was usually smaller but was still usually something fried.

Originally Posted by Bit

I grew up always having lunch in the middle of the day, supper as the evening meal, and "dinner" only when it was formal--like the lunchtime "Sunday dinner." Tea time, as I understand it, is earlier than supper time; supper was always after work, so anywhere between 5:30 and 7 p.m.

Yes and that's how it traditionally is here but also traditionally because it's been that way for generations, working class northerners have had dinner in the middle of the day and tea (meaning dinner) later in the day after work. Must just be a Brit thing huh?

translation...Fry up (UK English: verb, adverb) a selection of fried food such as; bacon, sausage, eggs, mushrooms, black pudding et al...often accompanied with *shudders* Heinz baked beans and tinned plum or fried tomato (I'll pass on the tomato-y stuff ta ever so ) ......usually served with toast and lashings of tea.

[Bit]

I can safely say I have never had a fry up. Sounds like a buffet at a country diner I guess... well, minus whatever "black pudding" might be....

[JustJo]

My first husband was from Queensland, Australia and I spent my first year there on what we'd call a cattle ranch...

Lots of heavy labor, and lots of food to provide fuel...so I got used to making (in this order)....

Breakfast, morning tea, lunch, afternoon tea and, finally, tea

I also learned how to make lamingtons, and pikelets, and steamed puddings.....but not black pudding *gag*

[StillettoDoll]

What is that breakfast thingy not sure what it's called , Ten soldiers,? I saw it on a food channel it looked good . I want to try that to make it.
I know I asked Incubus awhile back but I ready forgot.

Originally Posted by Bit

I can safely say I have never had a fry up. Sounds like a buffet at a country diner I guess... well, minus whatever "black pudding" might be....

Black pudding is delish. It's blood sausage, made with pigs blood (well my local one is)

The famous Bury black pudding is made in my home county of Lancashire and the town of errrm Bury.
http://www.buryblackpuddings.co.uk/
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/eat...al-dishes.html

There are national versions and variations. I personally love morcilla from Spain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding

[Bit]

My eyes are glazing over, lol...

Originally Posted by Incubus

Black pudding is delish. It's blood sausage, made with pigs blood (well my local one is)

The famous Bury black pudding is made in my home county of Lancashire and the town of errrm Bury.
http://www.buryblackpuddings.co.uk/
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/eat...al-dishes.html

There are national versions and variations. I personally love morcilla from Spain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding

I read those links (well, not so much the Bury link) and I've gotten quite the education... dunno why the whole blood thing squicks me out; I'm an omnivore... I guess the blood's always been an incidental thing, though, and never the focus of the food.

It just wasn't part of the culture I was raised in to even admit that meat has blood in it, and isn't that silly? I don't know if that was just in my area, or if it was real common in the US to be raised that way. Surely kids from families who hunted would know better...

[Sparkle]

Originally Posted by Incubus

Roast parsnips are yum and a must with Sunday lunch.


Now here we get what I think is a funny usage of UK English...

Do you 'mericans (to include all the races and nationalities who inhabit North America where this website is based) have dinner at lunch-time and tea at dinner time? Or is it always lunch in the middle of the day and dinner or supper at the end of the day?

Merlin I bet you have dinner and tea don't ya? I do at home but with Un-Mrs.I we have lunch and dinner.

How about you other Brits here too?

I love parsnips too. But my former partner and her sisters did not, hence the incognito.

On holidays and Sundays I have dinner late-midday and occasionally tea (tea the meal, not the drink in the evening. Otherwise it is breakfast/lunch & dinner. Or brunch & supper on the weekends when time and schedules are more fluid.

Originally Posted by Sparkle

I love parsnips too. But my former partner and her sisters did not, hence the incognito.

On holidays and Sundays I have dinner late-midday and occasionally tea (tea the meal, not the drink in the evening. Otherwise it is breakfast/lunch & dinner. Or brunch & supper on the weekends when time and schedules are more fluid.

Did they eat the roasted parsnips with no mention of the different taste? To be honest Un-Mrs.I has a time of it disguising all the veggies she has me eat.

So, we have brunch, lunch, dinner ...and... tea, dinner, supper

Here's another one to add to the mix. My Pops, a solid working class bloke who has dinner and tea, also has 'afters' instead of pudding or dessert. No accounting for some folks!

All the fry ups, English, Scottish, Welsh, Ulster fry are basically the same with variations according to region/country and personal taste. I love toasted Irish soda bread toasted with my Full English.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_breakfast


The wiki page shows a Full English with bubble and squeak, I have never seen a fry up with bubble and squeak......maybe they do that in 'posh' establishments!

I love the Somerset Maugham quote on the Wiki page

"To eat well in England you should have breakfast three times a day."

[Sparkle]

They did notice the difference in taste (between the parsnips and the potatoes) but not until they'd already eaten one. Which brought Lyn no small amount of glee.

I miss yorkshire pudding and rich tea biscuits, of all things.

Originally Posted by Sparkle

They did notice the difference in taste (between the parsnips and the potatoes) but not until they'd already eaten one. Which brought Lyn no small amount of glee.

I miss yorkshire pudding and rich tea biscuits, of all things.

Hah! That would give me a little evil glee-ness too

Yorkshire pudding is a food of the gods and goddesses isn't it. I'm crap at making it though and will usually buy it in ready made if having individual yorkies for Sunday lunch. I will make it myself if making Toad in the Hole with onion gravy. Do you 'mericans eat Toad in the Hole?

Rich tea biscuits? Not had those since I lived at home. This link might interest you.
http://www.britsuperstore.com/cgi-bi...=-1&TB=A&SHOP=

[Apocalipstic]

Blood sausage I have tried and just can't do it.

Bacon in England (London at least) is what we would call Canadian Bacon in the US and rashers? I think is what bacon is in the US and sooooo much better than in the US, as are the free range eggs!

Bubble and squeek?

Pims and Lemonade...YUMMY

Salmon....ultra yummy!

my favorite of all?

Percy Pigs from Marks and Spencer.

[Apocalipstic]

oh and
Victoria Sponge!

It cracks me up that people in the US think Tea is fancy and must include hats and gloves.

[Apocalipstic]

Oh and crisps. Which we would call potato chips come in all flavors like Chilean Sea Bass and Shrimp.

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Blood sausage I have tried and just can't do it.

Bacon in England (London at least) is what we would call Canadian Bacon in the US and rashers? I think is what bacon is in the US and sooooo much better than in the US, as are the free range eggs!

Bubble and squeek?

Pims and Lemonade...YUMMY

Salmon....ultra yummy!

my favorite of all?

Percy Pigs from Marks and Spencer.

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

oh and
Victoria Sponge!

It cracks me up that people in the US think Tea is fancy and must include hats and gloves.

My Pops who visits Canada regularly and has visited the US says that the bacon here is different too. My aunt in who's lived in Canada for nigh on 50yrs also concurs. They both agree that Brit bacon is better and now you agree too...it has to be true! I've never visited North America so can't give a personal opinion. I had no idea that our eggs may be better too.

You've lived here apocalipstic? Or come from here and emigrated?

Bubble and squeak is a fried up mixture of left over mash potato and cabbage (most usually but other left overs can be used too)...I like to use sprouts instead of cabbage. It's thoroughly delicious with bacon or left over roast meat.

Un-Mrs.I likes Pimms but after last summer's exploits with Pimms I will never ever drink the foul stuff again Do you get Pimms over there?

Despite shopping in Marks and Sparks regularly I don't know what Percy Pigs are.

Aye we do have some odd flavour crisps here too...did you ever see Hedgehog flavour? Seabrooks crisps are my favourite and the King of Crisp...some would disagree though. How about you Merlin? Seabrooks, Walkers, Kettle or own brand crisps?

Hah! Do Americans really think that tea is that old fashioned sort of twee-tea thing? Tea can be posh, very posh, with cake stands, doilies, china cups and saucers but probably only at the Connaught or the Savoy or similar 'posh' (read v.expensive) establishments. However a real persons less posh tea is a butty, a cake/biscuit and a mug o'tea.

[Sparkle]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Percy Pigs from Marks and Spencer.

Anything from Marks & Sparks. *sigh* I miss M&S a lot.

I also like fancy tea with hats and gloves. Followed by laying about on the grass in a nearby park, all dolled up.

When I first moved there I used to carry a little notebook with me to note all the new words and phrases and slang with translations.
Grocery shopping was really challenging and cockney rhyming slang - OMG I was always slow off the mark with that.

Originally Posted by Sparkle

Anything from Marks & Sparks. *sigh* I miss M&S a lot.

I also like fancy tea with hats and gloves. Followed by laying about on the grass in a nearby park, all dolled up.

When I first moved there I used to carry a little notebook with me to note all the new words and phrases and slang with translations.
Grocery shopping was really challenging and cockney rhyming slang - OMG I was always slow off the mark with that.

Where did you live Sparkle. You'll find that folks like Merlin and myself will speak slightly differently to folks in London. Not only are our accents different but also regional differences and idioms come into play too.

If you check out the link I posted for brit food you'll find plenty of Marks and Sparks food there.
http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatal...d_Spencer.html