Genderless Baby

Soon · 05-26-2011, 05:33 PM

http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...ead.php?t=1976

i was like i swear there was a thread on a swedish couple who did the same thing....and, lo and behold, i started it!

ha.

just thought i'd bump it up for you, noneoftheabove, so you can see what people thought of it at the time.

noneoftheabove · 05-26-2011, 05:40 PM

Oh OK thanks

EnderD_503 · 05-26-2011, 11:49 PM

I was reading about that in the Toronto Star over the weekend. I know the next day or something there were a bunch of responses by people saying they were "screwing the kid up" and "experimenting" on the kid. I think it has nothing to do with "screwing the kid up" and more the fact that people aren't comfortable with it and won't admit it.

Personally, it's good to see some parents taking this approach. We talk a lot around here about making the world a better place and the problems that the gender binary causes, yet as was demonstrated in the thread HSIN linked to even here it seems like some aren't comfortable with it.

Why? How can we hope to get rid of this tendency to force children into gender expectations if we can't even be accepting of a child who's gender we aren't aware of? How can you then expect kids to be accepting of it if the parents still teach them that everyone needs to have a gender or that gender must be known.

Anyways, kudos to these parents. Unlike most parents, they are not trying to force their kid into a gendered box. Funny how that is "harmful" to those who seem to approve forcing kids to act in certain ways based on chromosomes.

Diva · 05-26-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EnderD_503

I was reading about that in the Toronto Star over the weekend. I know the next day or something there were a bunch of responses by people saying they were "screwing the kid up" and "experimenting" on the kid. I think it has nothing to do with "screwing the kid up" and more the fact that people aren't comfortable with it and won't admit it.

Personally, it's good to see some parents taking this approach. We talk a lot around here about making the world a better place and the problems that the gender binary causes, yet as was demonstrated in the thread HSIN linked to even here it seems like some aren't comfortable with it.

Why? How can we hope to get rid of this tendency to force children into gender expectations if we can't even be accepting of a child who's gender we aren't aware of? How can you then expect kids to be accepting of it if the parents still teach them that everyone needs to have a gender or that gender must be known.

Anyways, kudos to these parents. Unlike most parents, they are not trying to force their kid into a gendered box. Funny how that is "harmful" to those who seem to approve forcing kids to act in certain ways based on chromosomes.

Of course, I have something to say about this.....

When I first heard this story, I sat back in my chair and thought.....well. How DO I feel about this?

I'm 58. Old school, I guess. But I'm thinking that I really admire these parents who are going to 'let thechips fall where they may'. How progressive!! How selfless of them to care for the CHILD'S development instead of their own!!!

Refreshing!

And then I thought....who cares!?!?! Is this child healthy? Is this child happy? Is this child LOVED?!?! Those are the important things, really, are they not?

And besides.....what f***ing business is it of OURS to say one way or another? Hmmm?

Storm. Great name!

05-26-2011, 05:33 PM	#1
Soon Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Relationship Status: attached Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: . Posts: 6,896 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,046 Thanked 13,093 Times in 3,386 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...ead.php?t=1976 i was like i swear there was a thread on a swedish couple who did the same thing....and, lo and behold, i started it! ha. just thought i'd bump it up for you, noneoftheabove, so you can see what people thought of it at the time.

05-26-2011, 05:40 PM	#2
noneoftheabove Junior Member How Do You Identify?: butch Preferred Pronoun?: don't care Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United States Posts: 8 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17 Thanked 25 Times in 6 Posts Rep Power: 0	Oh OK thanks

05-26-2011, 11:49 PM	#3
EnderD_503 Member How Do You Identify?: Queer, trans guy, butch Preferred Pronoun?: Male pronouns Relationship Status: Relationship Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,329 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,090 Thanked 3,878 Times in 1,022 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I was reading about that in the Toronto Star over the weekend. I know the next day or something there were a bunch of responses by people saying they were "screwing the kid up" and "experimenting" on the kid. I think it has nothing to do with "screwing the kid up" and more the fact that people aren't comfortable with it and won't admit it. Personally, it's good to see some parents taking this approach. We talk a lot around here about making the world a better place and the problems that the gender binary causes, yet as was demonstrated in the thread HSIN linked to even here it seems like some aren't comfortable with it. Why? How can we hope to get rid of this tendency to force children into gender expectations if we can't even be accepting of a child who's gender we aren't aware of? How can you then expect kids to be accepting of it if the parents still teach them that everyone needs to have a gender or that gender must be known. Anyways, kudos to these parents. Unlike most parents, they are not trying to force their kid into a gendered box. Funny how that is "harmful" to those who seem to approve forcing kids to act in certain ways based on chromosomes.