Gender Neutral Kindergarten in Sweden

[cane]

Originally Posted by tapu

Either it's new and thus an experiment; or, it's established enough to support your claims about its value to more levels. Sounds like it's still experimental to me (1 year) and so who knows what its relationship will be to anything else.

Our national curriculum support its value, and that is established and not experimental. and furthermore, we have more pre-schools like that one. The idea as a whole isn't a new one in Sweden.

[tapu]

Originally Posted by cane

Our national curriculum support its value, and that is established and not experimental. and furthermore, we have more pre-schools like that one. The idea as a whole isn't a new one in Sweden.

I was going by this extract from the OP:
The taxpayer-funded preschool which opened last year in the liberal Sodermalm district of Stockholm for kids aged 1 to 6 is among the most radical examples of Sweden's efforts to engineer equality between the sexes from childhood onward.

We may be talking at cross-purposes. Pity that a news note such as the one in the OP would not include remarks on the deeper research you assert is behind the new pre-schools. (Did all of the preschools like that one just open last year?) So that I may better understand your perspective, can you recommend, link, synopsize even, any 1) applicable curriculum research that might bring me up to date; and, if it isn't any trouble, 2) a description, explanation, any details really about what all these pre-schools look like and sound like. There might be anecdotes or even data available about how things are proceeding there.

[cane]

Tapu,

Sorry to say, that yes, the article is not correct, and the author must not know very much about Sweden. Everything in writing is not true, it seems like, sorry to be disapointing you.

Would be interresting to have a discussion about the issue, I acctually spent my lunch break searching for material for the thread. I just don't understand why you would write in such a demining way, or why you feel all this irony is needed.

/Cane

[tapu]

Oh, Cane, I'm sorry--I don't want to be demeaning! I'm sorry that I haven't taken more care in self-monitoring. I admit that irony is a feature of my argumentation style, but even it need not degenerate into personal affront.

Earlier in this thread, I called someone on their condescension toward me, and now I appreciate you calling me on my own breach of manners. Most of my rhetorical training was developed in the field of Linguistics. We linguists can be real assholes sometimes! >;-)

It has frustrated me that much discussion is about how great an idea it is to have a gender-neutral classroom; yet, I can't get out of anyone in real terms what it is, what its goal is, what the projections are, why it's desirable, and so on. I appreciate that you are making efforts toward supplementing the meager information on the OP so that a real discussion can ensue.

Again, I acknowledge the lack of respect in my earlier posting and apologize unconditionally.

[ScandalAndy]

Originally Posted by tapu

Oh, Cane, I'm sorry--I don't want to be demeaning! I'm sorry that I haven't taken more care in self-monitoring. I admit that irony is a feature of my argumentation style, but even it need not degenerate into personal affront.

Earlier in this thread, I called someone on their condescension toward me, and now I appreciate you calling me on my own breach of manners. Most of my rhetorical training was developed in the field of Linguistics. We linguists can be real assholes sometimes! >;-)

It has frustrated me that much discussion is about how great an idea it is to have a gender-neutral classroom; yet, I can't get out of anyone in real terms what it is, what its goal is, what the projections are, why it's desirable, and so on. I appreciate that you are making efforts toward supplementing the meager information on the OP so that a real discussion can ensue.

Again, I acknowledge the lack of respect in my earlier posting and apologize unconditionally.

I have to admit, I read the description and imagined it, and I have to state that I am pleased with my idea of what it is. You're right, I don't know exactly what it is like in reality.

[tapu]

Andy, at this point, even an imagined vision of it would help me. What do you think about it? Any part.

Oh! And I will mind my manners. Swear. >:-) --tap