Big Butch Love

[Selenay]

Just as a by the way, Timber, I was really not a salad fan until I found the right dressing. It's not my favorite, still, but it's way more bearable with the right something to slather on it.

[Jet]

I'm having salad tonight after my workout—I'm sick to death of them.

[T D]

I LOVE salads, especially with lettuce and spinach, other goodies, and spicy asian peanut dressing from TJs

[daisygrrl]

Originally Posted by T D

I LOVE salads, especially with lettuce and spinach, other goodies, and spicy asian peanut dressing from TJs

Yup, that's the key for me: the goodies. Adding a variety of colors to spruce up the salad helps make it more appealing & tasty.

[WolfyOne]

I agree, salads are great when you add healthy extras. It's like eating a buffet in a bowl.

[Leigh]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

As for my younger days, I can remember how cruel adults were to me...being in gym class and being weighed in. My weight was called out for everyone to hear. I don't know if they still do it today. I hope not. That sure didn't help my self-esteem.

When Rosie's niece got married last year, I wore a tux. We were photographed, and of course there were the remarks about my weight once the photographs of me came out. I was speechless. That wedding was such a wonderful time for everyone. Yes, I know I am fat. I don't need anyone to tell me that. It isn't like I don't know it. But to have someone look at me in a picture and then ask me when am I going on a diet? Sheesh. That just makes me cry. My entire life that is about all I have ever been told...gee you're fat. Well, no shit. Get over it.

Hi everyone,

Mainly I wanted to come in here and thank everyone for appreciating us bigger butches. We're often gonna derail threads of size because someone said something that didn't sit well with us, or the topic got thrown wayyyyyy off line for one reason or another but I think when it comes down to it we need to support one another and not bring each other down. Its hard enough being bigger without any of us bickering back and forth about words said or things being misconstrued. Ultimately I believe the bottom line is whatever our situation is, no matter what the reason may be as to why we are overweight or what we are doing to change said situation, we need to support one another

I quoted part of Andrew's post above because so much of it resonates with Me. I remember going to gm class during school and being so afraid to change in the change room with the rest of the girls that I would change in the washrooms instead just to avoid the finger pointing, stares and name calling. They never weighed us (thank goodness) but I always remember how often I would skip gym just so that I didn't have to change into shorts and a t-shirt to run around in front of My fellow classmates. That whole part of My life really played a huge part in how truly crappy My self-esteem has always been, and still continues to be today.

I've had pictures taken of Myself as well at various functions and been told that I'm overweight/fat etc. I wonder if they ever stop to think that I live with that fact every single day of My life, and that I really dont need to be reminded of it at every turn. I'm constantly being told how overweight I am, how I'll never find anyone who will love Me or want Me due to My weight, blah blah blah .......... it really just pisses Me off. Yes I'm fat but if your going to call Me out on it doesn't that just mean that your mouth is fatter than My entire body? My father, other members of My family and people in general like to get on My case about My being overweight but they never stop to think about how their words affect Me.

I'm here and I'm fat, I take up space and I'm in your face ~ learn to deal with it people!!!!!!!

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Braedon

Hi everyone,

Mainly I wanted to come in here and thank everyone for appreciating us bigger butches. We're often gonna derail threads of size because someone said something that didn't sit well with us, or the topic got thrown wayyyyyy off line for one reason or another but I think when it comes down to it we need to support one another and not bring each other down. Its hard enough being bigger without any of us bickering back and forth about words said or things being misconstrued. Ultimately I believe the bottom line is whatever our situation is, no matter what the reason may be as to why we are overweight or what we are doing to change said situation, we need to support one another

I quoted part of Andrew's post above because so much of it resonates with Me. I remember going to gm class during school and being so afraid to change in the change room with the rest of the girls that I would change in the washrooms instead just to avoid the finger pointing, stares and name calling. They never weighed us (thank goodness) but I always remember how often I would skip gym just so that I didn't have to change into shorts and a t-shirt to run around in front of My fellow classmates. That whole part of My life really played a huge part in how truly crappy My self-esteem has always been, and still continues to be today.

I've had pictures taken of Myself as well at various functions and been told that I'm overweight/fat etc. I wonder if they ever stop to think that I live with that fact every single day of My life, and that I really dont need to be reminded of it at every turn. I'm constantly being told how overweight I am, how I'll never find anyone who will love Me or want Me due to My weight, blah blah blah .......... it really just pisses Me off. Yes I'm fat but if your going to call Me out on it doesn't that just mean that your mouth is fatter than My entire body? My father, other members of My family and people in general like to get on My case about My being overweight but they never stop to think about how their words affect Me.

I'm here and I'm fat, I take up space and I'm in your face ~ learn to deal with it people!!!!!!!

Great post Braedon; a lot of courage to share your experiences in here. Thanks for coming in and know that you're appreciated here. I'm not saying that to turn this thread around, I'm saying from me personally to you..

[Legendryder]

I have read through this thread, and although I am not a large person, I so totally understand the teasing and lack of self-esteem issues. Growing up, I was the only gay, the only native looking one, the only one who was different. I wasn't the cookie cutter high school girl. I rode dirt bikes, dressed in overalls, didn't give one good shit what you thought and would tell you so in a New York minute. And I caught hell for it. Got the shit kicked out of me more times than I can tell you about. But you know what? It didn't change me one fucking bit. I still skate that friggin' jagged edge, and could care less what anyone thinks about it.

And, you know what? These days, I am thankful for it. Cause I grew up tough, and I take no shit. Scars. You bet your ass I got em. Inside and out. But, it has never made me less than I am, no matter what I look like. Big, small, who the hell cares. We all carry our own load. The trick is to carry YOUR OWN, not what someone else throws on your stack. If you feel good, physically, and your doctor is telling you go are good to go, then you are good to go. If your doctor is telling you something else, put on your big girl panties and deal with it. Pain in the ass, sure. But, are you worth eating salads?

I mean, think about it. If you go to the doctor, and they tell you to eat a strict diet, are YOU worth it? Is it something out of the relm of possibility? So, I know, crusing through the drive-thru at McDonalds is handy and all, but, hey, they serve salads too. I was heavy at one time in my life, I got that way driving long haul trucking, sitting on my butt doing nothing but holding the wheel and it came down to changing how I lived. Totally. I came to understand that I WAS worth the pain in the ass it took to change. Once I got used to what it took, I just stuck with it.

Anyhow, I feel you all. I hope I didn't piss anyone off, but, if I did, it wasn't on purpose. I just think you all can be whatever you see yourself being. And if that is heavy, so be it. As long as you are comfortable in your own skin, then fuck anyone who says different.

That would be my two cents.

[Leigh]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

Great post Braedon; a lot of courage to share your experiences in here. Thanks for coming in and know that you're appreciated here. I'm not saying that to turn this thread around, I'm saying from me personally to you..

Thank you My friend, I appreciate you as well bud

[Rockinonahigh]

The weight thingy is a pain to deal with in so many ways I would like to just tell ppl to get over the issue and deal with it in constructive ways insted of all the negative bs that we deal with.I wasnt always a big guy,untill ten years ago I kept my weight somewhere about 165 sometimes I would get a ten pound up in the winter but not much more.Back then I was doing some really hard physical work on a daily basics..then I had an acdent and hurt my back.I went from being insanely busiey to flat on my back in a traction for a while..the meds I was on as well as being inactive,oh hell I blew up like a baloon.To say over the years I have played a bad game of roulett with the injury cause I wont have back surgery cause 99% of the time it dose more harm than good.Last spring I near fell out when the scale said 218...no,no,no says I not an ounce more if I have to wire my mouth shut and drink from a straw.I got it down to 249,but being I quit smokeing dureing the fall right before the hollidays I gained back ten pounds,grrrrr.Really going back to being thin has never been my goal,geting healthy is.I accept the fact that im going to be chunky for the rest of my life but need to be healthy about it.
To those folks who gripe at us big guys for our weight all I have to say is...becareful cause they can easly be right where we are before they know it,when and if thet happends I do hope they remember how they treated others..bad karma is a bitch.
Rockin

[TIMBERWOLF]

Originally Posted by Selenay

Just as a by the way, Timber, I was really not a salad fan until I found the right dressing. It's not my favorite, still, but it's way more bearable with the right something to slather on it.

Actually WT has found that its the green taste and smell that I don't like. I think it taste like dirt myself, but I have eaten a couple of salads in my life at company party's at really nice restaurants . I love this buttermilk ranch that WT makes and it tastes a lot like Denny's Ranch.I think it was butter lettuce or something like that i liked.

[Andrew, Jr.]

Yesterday I had a 10 yo little boy come up to me in my doctor's office and say to me "gee you're fat". There was dead silence in the room. Most were reading magazines, and really not paying any attention to the children there. However, when he said this...everyone looked up. The mother did not move or say a word. I said yes, I am. And what you just said was very rude. Who is your mother? Well, that got things rolling. The mother thought she was going to start an argument with me over her child being nasty in public. I was not about to let it go. Eventually, three other adults got involved in this heated chat (lets call it that), and she and her kids left. Funny isn't it how kids follow adults lead? I just wonder about civility anymore. It seems to have gone way side anymore.

[apretty]

it's not a child's fault for making a comment that he probably hears at home. a simple, 'it's inappropriate/it's hurtful to make that kind of comment.' and *not reacting* like your whole world fell apart would be better than a huge confrontation.

or, you could just tell the kid, 'NO YOU'RE FAT!' because as adults we get to win this argument being louder and taller, FINALLY!

[KayCee]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Yesterday I had a 10 yo little boy come up to me in my doctor's office and say to me "gee you're fat". There was dead silence in the room. Most were reading magazines, and really not paying any attention to the children there. However, when he said this...everyone looked up. The mother did not move or say a word. I said yes, I am. And what you just said was very rude. Who is your mother? Well, that got things rolling. The mother thought she was going to start an argument with me over her child being nasty in public. I was not about to let it go. Eventually, three other adults got involved in this heated chat (lets call it that), and she and her kids left. Funny isn't it how kids follow adults lead? I just wonder about civility anymore. It seems to have gone way side anymore.

Obviously the mother has failed. A child that age should know what to say or not. Sadly, it's the modern form of up bringing these days..to look away..to ignore..kids don't know their boundaries anymore.

[Andrew, Jr.]

I agree. Kids and some adults have no clue as to what is acceptable and not any longer. It is like people using cell phones in the movies or during Church services. I find it so very rude. I have no interest in listening to their conversation. Otherwise, I would ask them to let me in on it (like a conference call). Civility has gone wayside. Just like our economy, it is down the toilet.

[Andrew, Jr.]

The last time I was in public, I was called this by 2 army soldiers. I was dropping off a few things that were to be delivered to Haiti. Now, I have 2 speeds - slow & slower. Just how it is. The soldiers did not see me walk up. And had no clue I walk slowly.

There were soldiers everywhere, and of all ranks/positions. Well, some upper ranked men heard this, and pulled the 2 soldiers off the box collection, and were dismissed immediately. I was given an apology, and asked if I had time to tour the base, and have lunch with them. I declined. I was just wayy to embarassed.

I think being called any derrogatory name is the same as being called a fag, queer, or whatever. It is not meant in a favorable light. It is meant negatively. That is what needs to change in this country. And to think that most folks are overweight, and to have to deal with folks like Dr. Oz on TV who just goes on tangents about being overweight. It makes my blood boil. Personally, I am sick and tired of it all. I want to be told I am handsome. I want to hear that I smell so good. I want to hear that I am a snappy dresser. I want to hear the nice things. Not the ugly stuff all the time. It wears me down.

I just had to vent. Thanks for listening.

Andrew

[bigbutchmistie]

BUMPITY BUMP

[Andrew, Jr.]

Where do the heavy guys go to buy their rash guard shirts for the beach? I end up wearing dark t-shirts. It works best for me.

When I was slimmer I could buy them off the rack at surf shops. Not any longer.

[bigbutchmistie]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Where do the heavy guys go to buy their rash guard shirts for the beach? I end up wearing dark t-shirts. It works best for me.

When I was slimmer I could buy them off the rack at surf shops. Not any longer.

I dont know Andrew... I dont even attempt to go swimming. I loved it when I was thinner. Havent done it in years.