Ebons Natural Transition Online Journal (its not a diary!!)

[Greco]

Ebon,

Best of luck to you with this, natural is a good way to go.

Greco

Originally Posted by Ebon

Has anyone else read up on this? I'm in the process of doing this and so far I feel pretty good. I think it is a nice alternative to be able to boost T levels naturally. The guy that was the guinea pig for this has had some great results.

It is best to consult a doctor of course before you put anything into your body and watch your blood pressure etc...

It's basically diet, supplements and exercise. I've been doing the exercises but I started the supplements on Monday. I'll let yall know how it goes once a week in this here thread.

It's only been a few days but my voice has been cracking, I have more energy, my sideburns are growing (more out than down but hey I'll take it). When I do my weight training I notice now that I don't want to stop when I do stop like my body wants to go more. This wasn't happening before. I don't know if I was just lazy or if anything that I am taking made that change. So far that is it. I'll be doing update videos (for myself) every month with changes. I think if I do them too often then I will get frustrated because nothing will be happening. I guess I don't want to watch grass grow.

[Linus]

I had actually tried this before choosing to medically. Various "testosterone" boosting herbs can be used to help increase T, there is a balance that would need to be done and there still is a risk to one's liver. Ensure that you get your liver checked a couple of times a year, if at all possible.

The main challenge I found was that this method plateaus and can only go so far for transition.

[Ebon]

1. Lipo 6X: It's a fat burner but I don't think I am going to use this one anymore as I don't like the way it makes me feel.

2. ZMA (or) B-6, Zinc, Magnesium: Workout recovery

3. Tribulus Terrestris The T booster

4. DHEA: Also a round about way to boost T. This one is controversial though.

5. Milk Thistle: For my liver
6. Fish Oil: For my heart, eyes and bones and other things. I have to be careful with this one because of mercury content in the fish oil. Some places that provide the supplements are not 3rd party tested.
7. Flax Oil: Heart
8. Allicin Garlic: I eat real raw garlic for this one. I usually just through a couple of chopped up cloves onto my meals after they are cooked. I also have these in pill form but the allicin is usually too diluted to do any good.
9. Multi-Vitamin: Just because
10. Dandelion: Also for liver.

Lots of stuff but so far so good(minus the Lipo stuff). I'm just trying it out and whatever doesn't jive with me then out it goes. I try to buy supplements that don't contain any crap so I have researched some companies that use veggie capsules and try to buy their stuff. It's more expensive but it is worth it in the long run.

Ezee: My workout I was doing stuff at the gym with free weights before but now I do resistance workouts with bands. I thought those wouldn't work but they actually do get the job done and I get sore. I do exercises that focus on muscles that will make my physique more masculine. There is a free exercise website called liveexercise.com that I use to workout at home.

I had a nice long chat with my body before I started this and we are working together to keep itself healthy. Diet is also important while I am doing this. There is more that goes with it than just taking supplements.

[DapperButch]

The dash site has a long, very good thread on this.

It is called Green Masculinity - Herbs and Naturopathy as Change Agents. Or something very very close to that.

There was a guy on there...first his name was one thing and then it changed it to Captain Longjack, or something like that, who was doing this stuff. A good, yet long read. Really worth it, I think.

Over time he became a bit disenchanted, due to what linus said, but there is still A LOT of information on that thread. I can't remember what forum it is in, though.

I do remember him being big on ginger chews. He would have one in the morning and one in the afternoon, saying that they lowered his voice. He had to be consistent taking it though, as it was a short-acting fix.

A word on Tribulus... my understanding is that if a female takes too much, it will start to actually causes the body to produce more estrogen. Where is this line? I don't know...I didn't get that far in my research as I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to take the risks associated with going this route. Herbs are just as powerful as western medicine, and people forget that all the time.

Ebon, your list looks like safe stuff to me (well like you said, the DHEA is controversial), but some of the other stuff I have read about, I have wondered about.

I wish you the best of luck, buddy! P.S. What is the name of the guy who was the "guinea pig"? I am assuming that you are following a specific plan?

[Ebon]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

The dash site has a long, very good thread on this.

It is called Green Masculinity - Herbs and Naturopathy as Change Agents. Or something very very close to that.

There was a guy on there...first his name was one thing and then it changed it to Captain Longjack, or something like that, who was doing this stuff. A good, yet long read. Really worth it, I think.

Over time he became a bit disenchanted, due to what linus said, but there is still A LOT of information on that thread. I can't remember what forum it is in, though.

I do remember him being big on ginger chews. He would have one in the morning and one in the afternoon, saying that they lowered his voice. He had to be consistent taking it though, as it was a short-acting fix.

A word on Tribulus... my understanding is that if a female takes too much, it will start to actually causes the body to produce more estrogen. Where is this line? I don't know...I didn't get that far in my research as I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to take the risks associated with going this route. Herbs are just as powerful as western medicine, and people forget that all the time.

Ebon, your list looks like safe stuff to me (well like you said, the DHEA is controversial), but some of the other stuff I have read about, I have wondered about.

I wish you the best of luck, buddy! P.S. What is the name of the guy who was the "guinea pig"? I am assuming that you are following a specific plan?

Never been to the dash site but I keep hearing about it. lol

Yes there is a specific plan designed not to take too much of anything and just enough to see changes over time. I know it's going to take a long time but it's worth the wait. I used to drink heavily so I'm sure my liver would rather have to deal with supplements over alcohol, although I will keep an eye on how it's doing with all of this. I also juice veggies and fruit (almost) everyday to get my correct daily amounts.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by Ebon

Never been to the dash site but I keep hearing about it. lol

Yes there is a specific plan designed not to take too much of anything and just enough to see changes over time. I know it's going to take a long time but it's worth the wait. I used to drink heavily so I'm sure my liver would rather have to deal with supplements over alcohol, although I will keep an eye on how it's doing with all of this. I also juice veggies and fruit (almost) everyday to get my correct daily amounts.

Well, if you ever want to check out the thread, send the Gemme!

I wish you the best of luck, my friend. Hears to hoping it keeps working for you!

[Linus]

http://web.archive.org/web/200612241...nLongjack.html <--- an archive of Cap'n LongJacks' site. I actually had used some of his suggestions for it.