FTM C*ck

kannon · 09-04-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I understand that, my Femme Cock is not about some phallus I purchased on the internets or the store, it's my hand, it's my mouth, it's each touch and penetration being it deep into boy/girl cunt or the mind fuck penetration as I paint the picture of how deep or how long I will fuck.

That's why I said the adopted male sexism can't ever apply or be imposed because I know for me, my Femme Cock is just more than the inches I purchase, it's about the penetrations I am participating in, giving, providing and setting up.

It is about pleasing, fucking our partner(s). In ways, that only each of us, in our unique partnerships, can create. It's a mind blowing experience. What an amazing buildup and release of energy.

clay · 09-04-2011, 06:42 PM

Beautifully worded, Lady Snow & Kannon!!! It's a "whole body" with "every sense kind of experience"...it's deep within us...its every nerve, every fiber, every sense...all encompassing that makes it so amazing...for me, its about how I meld into her....how I metamorph and we become "one"....electrifying....liquid....fluid....no t knowing where she begins & I end....using mind....body...senses....and NOT the phallic symbol. Yet we fill and fulfill one another...so completely..and totally....

The_Lady_Snow · 09-04-2011, 07:20 PM

That's the beauty of penetrative queer sex, it ranges from the romanticism of intercourse to the raw physical release of desire that comes when people come to satiate their carnal, physical mental or emotional needs, wants or desires.

kannon · 09-08-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

That's the beauty of penetrative queer sex, it ranges from the romanticism of intercourse to the raw physical release of desire that comes when people come to satiate their carnal, physical mental or emotional needs, wants or desires.

HOT!!! Very well expressed lady snow.

pinkajl · 09-12-2011, 09:23 AM

Oh my, at the risk of derailing this thread before it even truly begins, some of the posts remind me of a comment made during a workshop I facilitated this weekend at a women's festival.

The workshop: Butches and the Femmes Who Love Them

The question: What do you call a femme who straps on?
The answer (provided by a stone butch attendee): A lesbian

Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic.

Pink

The_Lady_Snow · 09-12-2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkajl

Oh my, at the risk of derailing this thread before it even truly begins, some of the posts remind me of a comment made during a workshop I facilitated this weekend at a women's festival.

The workshop: Butches and the Femmes Who Love Them

The question: What do you call a femme who straps on?
The answer (provided by a stone butch attendee): A lesbian

Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic.

Pink

My femme cock is embraced quite well thank you very much

!!

apretty · 09-12-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkajl

Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic.

Pink

Emotional safety, from what? We are talking about female-bodied people, are we not? How does butch-emotional safety from cock differ from anyone else who's been conditioned from birth to "act female"?

It's a little disturbing to think that you're facilitating a workshop where someone might come away thinking that femmes can't have a cock, or that a butchs' pleasure comes from taking 9 -loving inches from their femme and now they question their validity as "butch" because they're quite fine with their personal safety...

It's strange, for me, that you're defining butch out there, some place when personally, I've seen/read/experienced a decade of butches that are pretty much undefinable--Especially NOT by how they like to fuck or get fucked.

pinkajl · 09-12-2011, 11:00 AM

apretty,

Since we've never met and you've never attended one of our workshops, I'll share that we preface every single workshop we facilitate with the fact that we are not telling anyone what is "right" or "wrong". There is no single definition to being butch or femme. It is a spectrum and a personal journey unique to every individual.

We simply come to our workshops with a series of questions and at least one introspection activity. We work hard to create a safe space for sharing. And, we do our best to encourage a healthy discussion on a particular topic.

With that said, I referenced the Q/A from our latest workshop because I found the exchange interesting and relevant to this thread. Our topic was butch cock, trans dick and the phantom penis. Someone else brought up femme cock in our workshop, as well as this board. In the workshop, the exchange I posted generated some light as well as nervous laughter, but it led to a very good discussion. I came to understand what the sense of the 25+ people in our workshop was regarding the topic. I was hoping to do the same here.

As for emotional safety from cock... We seem to share the same question. Is that an issue for butches and FTMs? Since I am neither, it's not my place to answer; so, I will wait to see if someone else chooses to share their perspective.

Pink

EnderD_503 · 09-12-2011, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkajl

Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic.

I'm a bit confused about what you mean by emotional safety. This isn't me trying to give you a hard time or anything, I just don't know exactly what you mean by it.

As far as identity and dynamic, I think that depends on the person and where their own boundaries lie. Some femmes aren't into receiving penetrative sex, and same for any other identity. For me, the reason is not because I find the idea of femme cock offensive, I just know what freaks me out and triggers my dysphoria...which isn't limited to femme cock, but any cock or object attempting to enter any part of my body. But there are tons of transguys and butches out there who have no problem with getting fucked by a femme with a cock or various other cocks. Buck Angel is far from being the only one, lol.

That's the beauty of this dynamic or the queer dynamic as a whole, is that there is no "this dynamic." Everyone has their preferences. Some butches like femme cock, butch cock, trans/transguy cock, all sorts of cock, some like it some of the time, others like it all of the time, others not at all. Same with every other identity. I don't think we can make a sweeping generalization that says all butches/transguys don't like certain things.

pinkajl · 09-12-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EnderD_503

I'm a bit confused about what you mean by emotional safety. . . For me, the reason is not because I find the idea of femme cock offensive, I just know what freaks me out and triggers my dysphoria...which isn't limited to femme cock, but any cock or object attempting to enter any part of my body.

EnderD,

I think in this case emotional safety = trigger for dysphoria, which is probably a better term for what I was asking about.

I do hear what you're saying and agree with you that there is quite a bit of diversity and no one single way to define the butch femme dynamic.

Thanks for sharing.
Pink.

DanieClarke · 10-07-2012, 09:51 AM

don't call it my lil pinky

kannon · 09-12-2011, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkajl

Oh my, at the risk of derailing this thread before it even truly begins, some of the posts remind me of a comment made during a workshop I facilitated this weekend at a women's festival.

The workshop: Butches and the Femmes Who Love Them

The question: What do you call a femme who straps on?
The answer (provided by a stone butch attendee): A lesbian

Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic.

Pink

Femme cock has never been part of my sexual proclivities. I think I would have to feel secure and safe to freely experience something so foreign. So, I understand the emotional safety thing.

apretty · 09-13-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kannon

...I think I would have to feel secure and safe to freely experience...

Me too. I don't think safe feelings are gender specific, is the point I was trying to make earlier.

Maverick · 06-06-2012, 08:35 AM

Clay, I got your message and will get back to you later today with the details. Have to go to work right now and don't know all the answers at the moment. Have a great day.
Mav

TenderKnight · 06-07-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick

Clay, I got your message and will get back to you later today with the details. Have to go to work right now and don't know all the answers at the moment. Have a great day.
Mav

Hmmm. me thinks that Mav didn't really mean to post this here..

Maverick · 06-07-2012, 02:31 PM

Well not exactly no I didn't. Sorry about that. I need a gps for this planet.

TenderKnight · 06-12-2012, 12:39 PM

OK, so what about guys that have had bottom surgery?

Would love to hear from you guys too..

09-04-2011, 06:42 PM	#2
clay Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Butch (Silver Fox) Dom Daddi Preferred Pronoun?: 50 Shades of Clay Darker & Deeper Relationship Status: married to my forever Join Date: May 2011 Location: salt air & sandy beaches Posts: 13,136 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 97,020 Thanked 31,666 Times in 7,748 Posts Rep Power: 21474864	Beautifully worded, Lady Snow & Kannon!!! It's a "whole body" with "every sense kind of experience"...it's deep within us...its every nerve, every fiber, every sense...all encompassing that makes it so amazing...for me, its about how I meld into her....how I metamorph and we become "one"....electrifying....liquid....fluid....no t knowing where she begins & I end....using mind....body...senses....and NOT the phallic symbol. Yet we fill and fulfill one another...so completely..and totally.... __________________ To find someone who will love you for no reason, and to shower that person with reasons, that is the ultimate happiness. ~Robert Brault

09-04-2011, 07:20 PM	#3
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,078 Times in 15,670 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	Nods Nods That's the beauty of penetrative queer sex, it ranges from the romanticism of intercourse to the raw physical release of desire that comes when people come to satiate their carnal, physical mental or emotional needs, wants or desires. __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

06-12-2012, 12:39 PM	#17
TenderKnight Member How Do You Identify?: Kinky Poly Transman Preferred Pronoun?: He Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 551 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 773 Thanked 822 Times in 256 Posts Rep Power: 2402408	OK, so what about guys that have had bottom surgery? Would love to hear from you guys too.. __________________ The beatings shall continue.. until moral improves..

09-12-2011, 09:23 AM	#5
pinkajl Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Relationship Status: Happily Unavailable Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 41 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 12 Thanked 116 Times in 30 Posts Rep Power: 282674	Oh my, at the risk of derailing this thread before it even truly begins, some of the posts remind me of a comment made during a workshop I facilitated this weekend at a women's festival. The workshop: Butches and the Femmes Who Love Them The question: What do you call a femme who straps on? The answer (provided by a stone butch attendee): A lesbian Seriously, would an FTM or a butch truly embrace femme cock? I'm not talking about competition or size. I'm not even talking about Dom/sub roles. I'm talking about identity, emotional safety, and the whole dynamic. Pink

09-12-2011, 11:00 AM	#8
pinkajl Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Relationship Status: Happily Unavailable Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 41 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 12 Thanked 116 Times in 30 Posts Rep Power: 282674	apretty, Since we've never met and you've never attended one of our workshops, I'll share that we preface every single workshop we facilitate with the fact that we are not telling anyone what is "right" or "wrong". There is no single definition to being butch or femme. It is a spectrum and a personal journey unique to every individual. We simply come to our workshops with a series of questions and at least one introspection activity. We work hard to create a safe space for sharing. And, we do our best to encourage a healthy discussion on a particular topic. With that said, I referenced the Q/A from our latest workshop because I found the exchange interesting and relevant to this thread. Our topic was butch cock, trans dick and the phantom penis. Someone else brought up femme cock in our workshop, as well as this board. In the workshop, the exchange I posted generated some light as well as nervous laughter, but it led to a very good discussion. I came to understand what the sense of the 25+ people in our workshop was regarding the topic. I was hoping to do the same here. As for emotional safety from cock... We seem to share the same question. Is that an issue for butches and FTMs? Since I am neither, it's not my place to answer; so, I will wait to see if someone else chooses to share their perspective. Pink

10-07-2012, 09:51 AM	#11
DanieClarke Timed Out How Do You Identify?: 14 yrs post op Preferred Pronoun?: Hey you Relationship Status: single Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: central pa Posts: 35 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5 Thanked 53 Times in 23 Posts Rep Power: 0	don't call it my lil pinky

06-06-2012, 08:35 AM	#14
Maverick Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Transman Preferred Pronoun?: they/them Relationship Status: encumbered Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: eastern US Posts: 48 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 361 Thanked 181 Times in 34 Posts Rep Power: 1216948	Clay, I got your message and will get back to you later today with the details. Have to go to work right now and don't know all the answers at the moment. Have a great day. Mav

06-07-2012, 02:31 PM	#16
Maverick Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Transman Preferred Pronoun?: they/them Relationship Status: encumbered Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: eastern US Posts: 48 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 361 Thanked 181 Times in 34 Posts Rep Power: 1216948	Well not exactly no I didn't. Sorry about that. I need a gps for this planet.