Troy Davis - Guilty or Innocent?

suebee · 09-21-2011, 05:08 PM

Now they're saying perhaps it was a mistake, that there's no stay. He has not been excecuted yet, but there's no confirmation of a stay.

Corkey · 09-21-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by suebee

Now they're saying perhaps it was a mistake, that there's no stay. He has not been excecuted yet, but there's no confirmation of a stay.

Damnit. I hate this.

suebee · 09-21-2011, 05:15 PM

The Supreme Court has requested that the execution be delayed so they can consider the motion before them. No indication how long this could last. He could still be executed tonight. I cannot even imagine what Davis and his family are going through. Nor the family of the victim.

MissItalianDiva · 09-21-2011, 05:54 PM

I believe this man is absolutely innocent without a shadow of doubt in my mind. He has been on my mind all day long and am so relieved that he has received a temporary stay. I personally believe in God and can only hope that whatever is up there somehow has some kind of divine intervention in mind.

Twenty two years 16 of them on death row and he still has faith that justice will prevail. I have followed this case for years and hope ultimately he will be exonerated and that the state will have to admit they are wrong. I also hope in all this the police involved as well as the DA for this case is held accountable for their shady dealings

AtLast · 09-22-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by suebee

The Supreme Court has requested that the execution be delayed so they can consider the motion before them. No indication how long this could last. He could still be executed tonight. I cannot even imagine what Davis and his family are going through. Nor the family of the victim.

I didn't follow all of the media coverage on the SC stay- this is outrageous! The man is now dead. I don't understand why if the Court requested a delay, the execution was just not called off- why a time frame was part of this motion for delay? 24-48 hours- something like that.

Personally, I think that if the US Supreme Court agrees to hear matters in a stay of execution, there should be an automatic time frame in which the court can study the facts. It is bad enough that these situations always seem to be heard by the SC at the very last moment. How the hell can the Court rule on a case like this (with 23 years of material) in a couple of hours??

My gut tells me that we will be learning of some awful facts about the GA Pardons Board in the immediate future. How it is "appointed," etc. In GA, it has sole power over pardons, stays etc., not the govenor. Is this body made up of former cops? What is the history of it's make-up throughout the years of this case? Was there pressure on it from police? The victim was a police officer. What is the racial break-down of the board?

Since I first learned of this case about 5 years ago- I have always wondered about the GA Pardons Board and political ramifications.

This is not about the death penalty for me, it is about fair trials and competent investigations without prejudice. The fact is that any of us or someone we love could be Troy Davis. I feel for the victim's family, but it might very well be that they are hit with the fact that the wrong person was executed in the future. I hope that some renegade reporter and a PI set out to find the real truth. And if Davis was guilty, so be it, but I wouldn't want to live with the doubt of his guilt.

kannon · 09-22-2011, 02:47 PM

Did anyone witness the applause and adulation that Gov. Perry received from the audience during the Republican debate? How will politicians view and react to this? Will they advocate more strongly for capital punishment?

Dominique · 09-22-2011, 02:59 PM

Always the extreme people in the parties will say the republicans are in favor.

In Penna. The last female executed was in 1946 and the last male was
1999. The death penalty was re-enacted here in 1978. Three have been
executed since. Lethal injection is the manner this state uses. There are currently 215 inmates on death row.

We've had plenty of Republican Gov. I'm not sure, so I'm going to with hold any judgement. Those 8ft by 8ft cells, 23 hours a day, for life are weighing heavy on my mind right now.

Toughy · 09-22-2011, 04:57 PM

I hope everyone understands that the appeals process all the way to the SCOTUS does NOT allow new evidence to be considered. It can only consider what was done during the jury trial. Recanted testimony (after the verdict) has no bearing.

suebee · 09-22-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AtLastHome

I didn't follow all of the media coverage on the SC stay- this is outrageous! The man is now dead. I don't understand why if the Court requested a delay, the execution was just not called off- why a time frame was part of this motion for delay? 24-48 hours- something like that.

Personally, I think that if the US Supreme Court agrees to hear matters in a stay of execution, there should be an automatic time frame in which the court can study the facts. It is bad enough that these situations always seem to be heard by the SC at the very last moment. How the hell can the Court rule on a case like this (with 23 years of material) in a couple of hours??

I think that the court was only considering the very narrow parameters of the appeal. Justice Thomas likely did not have to review the entire case - only the matters pertaining to arguments made by Davis' lawyers. But I agree - a short delay like that is a kind of torture in and of itself, especially given that nobody had any idea if it was to last an hour or a week.

Corkey · 09-22-2011, 06:53 PM

Lawrence O'Donnell had a very compelling op ed on this. It is poignant and I hope you all either google it or youtube or what ever it is you do to get MSNBC

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