Same-Sex Marriage Update

MsTinkerbelly · 09-23-2011, 12:59 PM

First House Republican to Support DOMA Repeal
By Domingo Martinez

Andrew Harmon of The Advocate has an article on Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) becoming the first House Republican to support repealing the “Defense of Marriage Act” (DOMA). Rep. Ros-Lehtinen’s history of supporting equality includes her vote against the 2006 constitutional amendment defining marriage as a man and a woman and her vote to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” Now, she’s cosponsoring the Respect for Marriage Act

There is more to the story, but I couldn't link it....

Cindy

MsTinkerbelly · 09-30-2011, 12:35 PM

msnbc.com staff and news service reports
updated 2 hours 47 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has decided that military chaplains may perform same-sex unions, whether on or off military property.

..The ruling announced Friday by the Pentagon's personnel chief follows the historic Sept. 20 repeal of a law that had prohibited gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military.

"A military chaplain may participate in or officiate any private ceremony, whether on or off a military installation, provided that the ceremony is not prohibited by applicable state and local law," a memo released Friday said. "Further a chaplain is not required to participate in or officiate a private ceremony if doing so would be in variance with the tenets of his or her religion."

The Department of Defense statement, issued by Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness Clifford L. Stanley, also makes clear that the Pentagon doesn't back the individual ceremonies, despite passing the ruling.

"A military chaplain’s participation does not constitute an endorsement of the ceremony by DoD," it says.

Difference in benefits?
The ban on gay people serving openly in the military, commonly known as "don't ask don't tell," was in place for 18 years before it was repealed. It allowed gays to serve as long as they did not openly acknowledge their sexual orientation, and prohibited commanders from asking.

Navy chaplains' training was updated in May to answer questions about civil ceremonies for gay couples, months before the repeal, should the ban be dropped.

On May 9, The Associated Press reported that even if a marriage were to be performed, same-sex Navy partners would not get any health, housing or other benefits that are provided to married couples involving a man and woman.

Some members of Congress have objected to military chaplains performing same-sex unions, saying it would violate the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. Others arguing that it may undermine order and discipline.

On Sept. 20, when the ban was lifted, Pentagon press secretary George Little told reporters, "No one should be left with the impression that we are unprepared. We are prepared for repeal."

*Anya* · 09-30-2011, 02:03 PM

It is amazing and mind-boggling!

Wow!

Starbuck · 09-30-2011, 02:19 PM

I am ecstatic that military chaplains have been given the right to perform same sex marriages on or off base! This is one less discriminatory thing service members have to worry about, where they can say their vows or who they can have marry them. Now the only down side is it still has to be legal in the state in which they are stationed, if I read that correctly. But yea! Another step forward!

Okiebug61 · 09-30-2011, 03:28 PM

[QUOTE=Starbuck;428599]I am ecstatic that military chaplains have been given the right to perform same sex marriages on or off base! This is one less discriminatory thing service members have to worry about, where they can say their vows or who they can have marry them. Now the only down side is it still has to be legal in the state in which they are stationed, if I read that correctly. But yea! Another step forward![/QUOTE

So if they die does this mean the benefits will be their partner's?

Corkey · 09-30-2011, 04:27 PM

[quote=Okiebug61;428640]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbuck

I am ecstatic that military chaplains have been given the right to perform same sex marriages on or off base! This is one less discriminatory thing service members have to worry about, where they can say their vows or who they can have marry them. Now the only down side is it still has to be legal in the state in which they are stationed, if I read that correctly. But yea! Another step forward![/QUOTE

So if they die does this mean the benefits will be their partner's?

There are no benefits to partners, DOMA needs to be overturned first.

Okiebug61 · 10-01-2011, 07:46 AM

[quote=Corkey;428659]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiebug61

There are no benefits to partners, DOMA needs to be overturned first.

There should be no separation of our rights as humans.

09-23-2011, 12:59 PM	#1
MsTinkerbelly Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: ... Preferred Pronoun?: ... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ... Posts: 6,573 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,737 Thanked 22,895 Times in 5,017 Posts Rep Power: 0	From the PROP 8 Blog First House Republican to Support DOMA Repeal By Domingo Martinez Andrew Harmon of The Advocate has an article on Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) becoming the first House Republican to support repealing the “Defense of Marriage Act” (DOMA). Rep. Ros-Lehtinen’s history of supporting equality includes her vote against the 2006 constitutional amendment defining marriage as a man and a woman and her vote to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” Now, she’s cosponsoring the Respect for Marriage Act There is more to the story, but I couldn't link it.... Cindy

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MsTinkerbelly Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: ... Preferred Pronoun?: ... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ... Posts: 6,573 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,737 Thanked 22,895 Times in 5,017 Posts Rep Power: 0	Amazing!! msnbc.com staff and news service reports updated 2 hours 47 minutes ago WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has decided that military chaplains may perform same-sex unions, whether on or off military property. ..The ruling announced Friday by the Pentagon's personnel chief follows the historic Sept. 20 repeal of a law that had prohibited gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military. "A military chaplain may participate in or officiate any private ceremony, whether on or off a military installation, provided that the ceremony is not prohibited by applicable state and local law," a memo released Friday said. "Further a chaplain is not required to participate in or officiate a private ceremony if doing so would be in variance with the tenets of his or her religion." The Department of Defense statement, issued by Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness Clifford L. Stanley, also makes clear that the Pentagon doesn't back the individual ceremonies, despite passing the ruling. "A military chaplain’s participation does not constitute an endorsement of the ceremony by DoD," it says. Difference in benefits? The ban on gay people serving openly in the military, commonly known as "don't ask don't tell," was in place for 18 years before it was repealed. It allowed gays to serve as long as they did not openly acknowledge their sexual orientation, and prohibited commanders from asking. Navy chaplains' training was updated in May to answer questions about civil ceremonies for gay couples, months before the repeal, should the ban be dropped. On May 9, The Associated Press reported that even if a marriage were to be performed, same-sex Navy partners would not get any health, housing or other benefits that are provided to married couples involving a man and woman. Some members of Congress have objected to military chaplains performing same-sex unions, saying it would violate the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. Others arguing that it may undermine order and discipline. On Sept. 20, when the ban was lifted, Pentagon press secretary George Little told reporters, "No one should be left with the impression that we are unprepared. We are prepared for repeal."

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