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SoNotHer · 10-12-2011, 05:50 PM

I talked to a couple people today including a colleague with whom I immediately bonded with about the protests. We're going to hook up and go into Chicago. I had him laughing when I compared the bloated corporatocracy to the "Death Star" (we're both SF/Fantasy geeks), and he responded, "Yeah, and I don't see any Luke Skywalker around ready to fire the shots to blow that thing up." We laughed hard.

Anyway, I've got a line on a credit union. Thanks everyone.

atomiczombie · 10-12-2011, 06:21 PM

I worry about just how long the protests can go on with winter coming.

Corkey · 10-12-2011, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

I worry about just how long the protests can go on with winter coming.

My hope is that it spreads further than just the east, Occupy the US entirely.
Winters can be brutal out here.

Ebon · 10-12-2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

I worry about just how long the protests can go on with winter coming.

Yeah I was thinking about that.

SoNotHer · 10-12-2011, 06:43 PM

on indigenous peoples' day. Maybe another quote here would serve to embolden and allay - I've worried as well about the effect of winter on the protests:

From A People's History of the United States, "Robber Barons and Rebels":

"That winter in Yonkers, a few women carpet weavers were fired for joining the Knights [of Labor], and in the cold of February, 2,500 women walked out and picketed the mill. Only seven hundred of them were members of the Knights, but all the strikers soon joined. The police attacked the picket line and arrested them, but a jury found them not guilty. A great dinner was held by working people in New York to honor them, with two thousand delegates from unions all over the city. The strike lasted six months, and the women won some of their demands, getting back their jobs, but without recognition of their union.

What was astonishing in so many of these struggles was not that the strikers did not win all that they wanted, but that, against such great odds, they dared to resist, and were not destroyed."

Corkey · 10-12-2011, 10:23 PM

http://rt.com/usa/news/umbrellas-out...y-seattle-585/

If one is going to protest in Seattle, you're going to get wet, or collapse

Starbuck · 10-12-2011, 10:25 PM

There's even people protesting here in Oklahoma! Don't know the size of the crowd but it made it onto the evening news last night.

SoNotHer · 10-12-2011, 10:41 PM

What Comes After Money? Book Signing. Reasons to Occupy Wall Street
Evolver NYC, Fri, Oct. 28

Come out for the book launch of What Comes After Money: Essays from Reality Sandwich on Transforming Currency & Community, edited by Evolver co-founders Daniel Pinchbeck and Ken Jordan. This anthology is particularly relevant as thousands of protesters across the U.S. take part in the #Occupy movement, challenging the current financial paradigm in order to create a better, more equitable world. Join the editors, as well as Jivamukti co-founder Sharon Gannon, and Day 1 Wall Street occupier Kelly Heresy.

Jivamukti Yoga School, 841 Broadway, 2nd Fl, Free, 8p.
http://www.realitysandwich.com/beyond_money

atomiczombie · 10-12-2011, 11:08 PM

nowandthen · 10-13-2011, 12:35 AM

Here is some good thoughts on the relationship to power and movements. Rethinking how language arrives with meaning. Thinking how "decolonize" is a more inclusive term vs. how "occupied" is positioned in relations to indigenous communities around the globe.

http://oaklandlocal.com/posts/2011/1...r-struggles-co

Cin · 10-13-2011, 01:12 PM

Mayor Bloomburg is asking protesters to clear out for a clean up. The NY Post says they won't be allowed back in.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...fXamvvwkvSbHbM

There is a petition that will be presented to Mayor Bloomburg that anyone interested can sign at moveon.org

http://www.civic.moveon.org/defend_ows/

Another article about the attempt.
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...es/#paragraph3

Ebon · 10-13-2011, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

Mayor Bloomburg is asking protesters to clear out for a clean up. The NY Post says they won't be allowed back in.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...fXamvvwkvSbHbM

There is a petition that will be presented to Mayor Bloomburg that anyone interested can sign at moveon.org

http://www.civic.moveon.org/defend_ows/

Another article about the attempt.
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...resses_charges

I hope they are not stupid enough to fall for that dumb ass crap.

Cin · 10-13-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebon

I hope they are not stupid enough to fall for that dumb ass crap.

The last article in my post, the one from Alternet outlines a sort of plan.

Sorry the links weren't working. They seem to be okay now.

SoNotHer · 10-13-2011, 01:40 PM

When Bush came into office, the homeless in downtown DC disappeared. Homelessness didn't disappear, but the immediate presence of it did.

So this is the latest tactical response? Interesting. OK then let something fester beneath the surface and see how that works out.

The links worked, Miss Tick, when I cut and pasted in an address bar. Thanks for posting them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

The last article in my post, the one from Alternet outlines a sort of plan.

Sorry the links weren't working. They seem to be okay now.

JAGG · 10-13-2011, 02:59 PM

[quote=SoNotHer;436120]I know all of that, YB :-) I was looking for someone's personal recommendation.

You are a teacher. Maybe check your area we have Teachers federal CU here. Teachers get special rates etc.

Sachita · 10-13-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

Mayor Bloomburg is asking protesters to clear out for a clean up. The NY Post says they won't be allowed back in.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...fXamvvwkvSbHbM

There is a petition that will be presented to Mayor Bloomburg that anyone interested can sign at moveon.org

http://www.civic.moveon.org/defend_ows/

Another article about the attempt.
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...es/#paragraph3

or start calling

http://www.occupywallst.org/article/...e-closure-occ/

come on everyone flood the phones and messaging center! don't let this happen.

atomiczombie · 10-13-2011, 06:27 PM

EMERGENCY #OWS EVICTION DEFENSE:
Prevent the forcible closure of Occupy Wall Street

Tell Bloomberg: Don't Foreclose the Occupation.
NEED MASS TURN-OUT, SHOW UP NO LATER THAN 6 A.M.

This is an emergency situation. Please take a minute to read this, and please take action and spread the word far and wide.

Occupy Wall Street is gaining momentum, with occupation actions now happening in cities across the world.

But last night Mayor Bloomberg and the NYPD notified Occupy Wall Street participants about plans to “clean the park”—the site of the Wall Street protests—tomorrow starting at 7am. "Cleaning" was used as a pretext to shut down “Bloombergville” a few months back, and to shut down peaceful occupations elsewhere.

Bloomberg says that the park will be open for public usage following the cleaning, but with a notable caveat: Occupy Wall Street participants must follow the “rules”.
NYPD Police Commissioner Ray Kelly has said that they will move in to clear us and we will not be allowed to take sleeping bags, tarps, personal items or gear back into the park.
This is it—this is their attempt to shut down #OWS for good.

PLEASE TAKE ACTION

1) Call 311 (or +1 (212) NEW-YORK if you're out of town) and tell Bloomberg to support our right to assemble and to not interfere with #OWS.
2) Come to #OWS TONIGHT AT MIDNIGHT to defend the occupation from eviction.

For those of you who plan to help us hold our ground—which we hope will be all of you—make sure you understand the possible consequences. Be prepared to not get much sleep. Be prepared for possible arrest. Make sure your items are together and ready to go (or already out of the park.) We are pursuing all possible strategies; this is a message of solidarity.

LINK: http://www.occupywallst.org/article/...e-closure-occ/

Corkey · 10-13-2011, 06:29 PM

Russell Simmons has personally asked to do the cleanup and pay for it. Lets see if Bloomberg accepts his offer, that is if it really is about "sanitation" as Bloomberg asserts.

atomiczombie · 10-13-2011, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkey

Russell Simmons has personally asked to do the cleanup and pay for it. Lets see if Bloomberg accepts his offer, that is if it really is about "sanitation" as Bloomberg asserts.

Of course it isn't about sanitation. And lots of other people are in the process of cleaning the park themselves. Bloomberg just wants people out. He says he will let them back in, however they won't be allowed to bring their tents and blankets with them. He wants them exposed to the elements so they will leave.

Kätzchen · 10-13-2011, 09:29 PM

I just had to post here tonight!

OWS has taken POrtland by storm!!!!!

Tonight, it took me two hours to get home from work.
Gridlock downtown; an OpEd in the paper today pressuring our mayor to shut it down
and I hope it doesn't happen.... I honked and made peace signs to supporters, saw some friends of mine, nearly got into an accident, and spent time down there tonight.

No rain or snow here can stop people from standing up and making our voices heard.

Just had to share,
~D

10-12-2011, 05:50 PM	#261
SoNotHer Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Professional Sandbagger and Jenga Zumba Instructor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: In the master control room of my world domination dreams Posts: 2,811 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 4,735 Times in 1,409 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	Credit Unions I talked to a couple people today including a colleague with whom I immediately bonded with about the protests. We're going to hook up and go into Chicago. I had him laughing when I compared the bloated corporatocracy to the "Death Star" (we're both SF/Fantasy geeks), and he responded, "Yeah, and I don't see any Luke Skywalker around ready to fire the shots to blow that thing up." We laughed hard. Anyway, I've got a line on a credit union. Thanks everyone.

10-12-2011, 06:21 PM	#262
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10-12-2011, 06:43 PM	#265
SoNotHer Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Professional Sandbagger and Jenga Zumba Instructor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: In the master control room of my world domination dreams Posts: 2,811 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 4,735 Times in 1,409 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	I quoted from Zinn's masterpiece in Corkey's thread on indigenous peoples' day. Maybe another quote here would serve to embolden and allay - I've worried as well about the effect of winter on the protests: From A People's History of the United States, "Robber Barons and Rebels": "That winter in Yonkers, a few women carpet weavers were fired for joining the Knights [of Labor], and in the cold of February, 2,500 women walked out and picketed the mill. Only seven hundred of them were members of the Knights, but all the strikers soon joined. The police attacked the picket line and arrested them, but a jury found them not guilty. A great dinner was held by working people in New York to honor them, with two thousand delegates from unions all over the city. The strike lasted six months, and the women won some of their demands, getting back their jobs, but without recognition of their union. What was astonishing in so many of these struggles was not that the strikers did not win all that they wanted, but that, against such great odds, they dared to resist, and were not destroyed."

10-12-2011, 10:23 PM	#266
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10-12-2011, 10:25 PM	#267
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10-12-2011, 10:41 PM	#268
SoNotHer Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Professional Sandbagger and Jenga Zumba Instructor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: In the master control room of my world domination dreams Posts: 2,811 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 4,735 Times in 1,409 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	For Cheryl and Others in NYC What Comes After Money? Book Signing. Reasons to Occupy Wall Street Evolver NYC, Fri, Oct. 28 Come out for the book launch of What Comes After Money: Essays from Reality Sandwich on Transforming Currency & Community, edited by Evolver co-founders Daniel Pinchbeck and Ken Jordan. This anthology is particularly relevant as thousands of protesters across the U.S. take part in the #Occupy movement, challenging the current financial paradigm in order to create a better, more equitable world. Join the editors, as well as Jivamukti co-founder Sharon Gannon, and Day 1 Wall Street occupier Kelly Heresy. Jivamukti Yoga School, 841 Broadway, 2nd Fl, Free, 8p. http://www.realitysandwich.com/beyond_money

10-12-2011, 11:08 PM	#269
atomiczombie Member How Do You Identify?: Femmesensual Transguy Preferred Pronoun?: He, Him, His Relationship Status: Dating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rio Vista, CA Posts: 1,225 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,949 Thanked 3,220 Times in 759 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	__________________ http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...orums_2000.gif Russian Unicorn http://occupiedmedia.us/

10-13-2011, 12:35 AM	#270
nowandthen Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Butch Preferred Pronoun?: S/he Relationship Status: In a realationship with my PhD. Dissertation work for the next 3 years Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Coast Posts: 508 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 400 Thanked 947 Times in 325 Posts Rep Power: 6580599	Rethinking the term 'occupied' Here is some good thoughts on the relationship to power and movements. Rethinking how language arrives with meaning. Thinking how "decolonize" is a more inclusive term vs. how "occupied" is positioned in relations to indigenous communities around the globe. http://oaklandlocal.com/posts/2011/1...r-struggles-co __________________ "Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you." "Does it hurt" asked the Rabbit, "Sometimes", said the Skin Horse, for he was always honest. " It's a Kind of testing, The kind of testing that spiritual warriors need in order to awaken their Heart" PC

10-13-2011, 01:12 PM	#271
Cin Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: Truly Madly Deeply Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: In My Head Posts: 2,814 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,333 Thanked 10,404 Times in 2,476 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	Mayor Bloomburg is asking protesters to clear out for a clean up. The NY Post says they won't be allowed back in. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...fXamvvwkvSbHbM There is a petition that will be presented to Mayor Bloomburg that anyone interested can sign at moveon.org http://www.civic.moveon.org/defend_ows/ Another article about the attempt. http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...es/#paragraph3 __________________ The reason facts don’t change most people’s opinions is because most people don’t use facts to form their opinions. They use their opinions to form their “facts.” Neil Strauss

10-13-2011, 02:59 PM	#275
JAGG Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: JAGG Relationship Status: =) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tulsa (cat free zone) Posts: 6,093 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 18,651 Thanked 17,531 Times in 4,137 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	[quote=SoNotHer;436120]I know all of that, YB :-) I was looking for someone's personal recommendation. You are a teacher. Maybe check your area we have Teachers federal CU here. Teachers get special rates etc. __________________ I don't want to spend my life with someone I can live with, I want to spend my life with someone I can't live without.

10-13-2011, 06:27 PM	#277
atomiczombie Member How Do You Identify?: Femmesensual Transguy Preferred Pronoun?: He, Him, His Relationship Status: Dating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rio Vista, CA Posts: 1,225 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,949 Thanked 3,220 Times in 759 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	EMERGENCY CALL TO ACTION: Keep Bloomberg and Kelly From Evicting #OWS EMERGENCY #OWS EVICTION DEFENSE: Prevent the forcible closure of Occupy Wall Street Tell Bloomberg: Don't Foreclose the Occupation. NEED MASS TURN-OUT, SHOW UP NO LATER THAN 6 A.M. This is an emergency situation. Please take a minute to read this, and please take action and spread the word far and wide. Occupy Wall Street is gaining momentum, with occupation actions now happening in cities across the world. But last night Mayor Bloomberg and the NYPD notified Occupy Wall Street participants about plans to “clean the park”—the site of the Wall Street protests—tomorrow starting at 7am. "Cleaning" was used as a pretext to shut down “Bloombergville” a few months back, and to shut down peaceful occupations elsewhere. Bloomberg says that the park will be open for public usage following the cleaning, but with a notable caveat: Occupy Wall Street participants must follow the “rules”. NYPD Police Commissioner Ray Kelly has said that they will move in to clear us and we will not be allowed to take sleeping bags, tarps, personal items or gear back into the park. This is it—this is their attempt to shut down #OWS for good. PLEASE TAKE ACTION 1) Call 311 (or +1 (212) NEW-YORK if you're out of town) and tell Bloomberg to support our right to assemble and to not interfere with #OWS. 2) Come to #OWS TONIGHT AT MIDNIGHT to defend the occupation from eviction. For those of you who plan to help us hold our ground—which we hope will be all of you—make sure you understand the possible consequences. Be prepared to not get much sleep. Be prepared for possible arrest. Make sure your items are together and ready to go (or already out of the park.) We are pursuing all possible strategies; this is a message of solidarity. LINK: http://www.occupywallst.org/article/...e-closure-occ/ __________________ http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...orums_2000.gif Russian Unicorn http://occupiedmedia.us/

10-13-2011, 06:29 PM	#278
Corkey Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Human Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Very Married Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where I want to be Posts: 8,155 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 47,491 Thanked 29,268 Times in 6,637 Posts Rep Power: 21474859	Russell Simmons has personally asked to do the cleanup and pay for it. Lets see if Bloomberg accepts his offer, that is if it really is about "sanitation" as Bloomberg asserts. __________________ "Many proposals have been made to us to adopt your laws, your religion, your manners and your customs. We would be better pleased with beholding the good effects of these doctrines in your own practices, than with hearing you talk about them". ~Old Tassel, Chief of the Tsalagi (Cherokee)

10-13-2011, 09:29 PM	#280
Kätzchen Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, please. Relationship Status: Attached to my granddaughter & chosen friends and family.. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Enjoying life with my granddaughter & chosen friends and family. Posts: 16,091 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,733 Thanked 33,524 Times in 10,650 Posts Rep Power: 21474868	I just had to post here tonight! OWS has taken POrtland by storm!!!!! Tonight, it took me two hours to get home from work. Gridlock downtown; an OpEd in the paper today pressuring our mayor to shut it down and I hope it doesn't happen.... I honked and made peace signs to supporters, saw some friends of mine, nearly got into an accident, and spent time down there tonight. No rain or snow here can stop people from standing up and making our voices heard. Just had to share, ~D