Neurodiversity

[violaine]

i just listened to a review of the film, based on temple grandin's life-

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...ntimental.html


when temple visits the farm of a family member, the director turns up the volume to make everything louder, and everything - even visuals more frightening -


"inspirational movie" & temple certainly shows the connection between animal/human behaviour.

i think she has done such amazing work with the hug machine, humane treatment for farm animals [even though i'm total vegan], i appreciate that she can put herself in slaughterhouse to educate/promote her services and products- due to her inherent realisation about cows "cattle" as she calls them, being hyper.sensitive loud sounds, things out of place - a shadow, thread, chain, train, lighting, hook, [all of which signal to cows danger out in wild], et c.

she is with a keen awareness to surroundings = senses/sensory issues/overload, and that's exactly how i am, too.

[violaine]

not so crazy about how she responded to question asked of her by terry gross on npr- "do you think over time you become less autistic?"

temple said she was becoming "closer to 'normal' "

bah.

[Andrew, Jr.]

I with you on that Violaine. I'm 46.

[Semantics]

Originally Posted by violaine

not so crazy about how she responded to question asked of her by terry gross on npr- "do you think over time you become less autistic?"

temple said she was becoming "closer to 'normal' "

bah.

I was just listening to that interview.

John Elder Robinson said something similar in Look me in the Eye. He explained that he didn't learn how to express emotion until he was in his forties. Robinson actually mentions Temple Grandin in his book, saying that she experienced a similar evolution.

My oldest (16) is in intensive social training and one of the things he studies is understanding body language and facial expressions. If it works and he can eventually do this, I imagine that he will feel differently and closer to "normal", as Grandin and Robinson mentioned.


I know that it can be annoying to hear people talk about being normal (and I have to say it does make me a little, too). It implies that anything other than typical is wrong or bad, but I've tried to adjust my thinking about it. My children are unique and I love them as they are, and I don't have them in therapies because I expect them to be "fixed" -but because if it helps them live an easier life by having the ability to understand other people, and appropriate social behavior, I'm all for it.

[violaine]

semantics

thank you for writing here good on you for being so involved in making life easier on your 16 year old the part you wrote about 'adjusting your thinking' is a h.u.g.e. dealio

loved 'look me in the eye' and robison [and the work of his brother!].

support groups with parents, gparents, aunts, partners, et c. of people somewhere on the spectrum mixed with aspies can really open the eyes/minds of one another. parents [et c] open to 'adjusting their thinking' really stand a chance of being less fault-finding, having more patience, less pressuring of aspie to 'go outside and play like everyone else' and/or 'be normal'. acceptance of wiring differences really is essential- and i, too, always need to work on having some more patience/understanding for NTs!!

i can pull out the annoying bits and pieces from any source- dog behaviour, guinea pig books, neurological writings, spirituality, on and on- and take away the really stunning parts/words. temple grandin has accomplished so much, that i admire her for all of that passion, education, educating, and honesty.

[violaine]

http://www.johnrobison.com/

[Andrew, Jr.]

Just dropping by to say hello. I am sick with pneumonia. And I am just exhausted. I hope everyone is doing well, and life is being kind to everyone.

Andrew

[christie]

Originally Posted by Semantics

I was just listening to that interview.

John Elder Robinson said something similar in Look me in the Eye. He explained that he didn't learn how to express emotion until he was in his forties. Robinson actually mentions Temple Grandin in his book, saying that she experienced a similar evolution.

My oldest (16) is in intensive social training and one of the things he studies is understanding body language and facial expressions. If it works and he can eventually do this, I imagine that he will feel differently and closer to "normal", as Grandin and Robinson mentioned.


I know that it can be annoying to hear people talk about being normal (and I have to say it does make me a little, too). It implies that anything other than typical is wrong or bad, but I've tried to adjust my thinking about it. My children are unique and I love them as they are, and I don't have them in therapies because I expect them to be "fixed" -but because if it helps them live an easier life by having the ability to understand other people, and appropriate social behavior, I'm all for it.

Bratboy is now 16 and has learned to navigate social cues, body language, voice inflection and all the other things in nonverbal communication pretty well.

I rue the day that he mastered sarcasm. Now, he says something wise-assed and drips, "THAT, Mommmmm, was sarcasm."

Oh goodie.

[Semantics]

Originally Posted by christie0918

Bratboy is now 16 and has learned to navigate social cues, body language, voice inflection and all the other things in nonverbal communication pretty well.

I rue the day that he mastered sarcasm. Now, he says something wise-assed and drips, "THAT, Mommmmm, was sarcasm."

Oh goodie.

It feels weird to say that I'd love to hear sarcasm from my teenage son.

[christie]

Originally Posted by Semantics

It feels weird to say that I'd love to hear sarcasm from my teenage son.

Or that something is a cause for celebration in age-appropriateness... like surfing internet porn.

[Semantics]

Originally Posted by christie0918

Or that something is a cause for celebration in age-appropriateness... like surfing internet porn.

Before I had children I never imagined that I'd rather see porn on my son's computer than a bunch of highly ordered links on accelerator physics and whatever synchrocyclotrons and isochronous cyclotrons are.


He did tell his therapist that he is interested in dating at some point, and that he would take his date to a movie so that he didn't have to talk much.