WTF Humanity?

[Dominique]

[QUOTE=purepisces;460353]When I woke up this morning I was relieved to hear that Joe Paterno had been fired and the president of Penn State had resigned (why not fired?). I also would have been ok if they had just been suspended without pay while the investigation was completed, although it doesn’t seem that anyone is contesting the fact that there was a cover up.

What I can’t believe is the public’s reaction. WTF people! Rioting in the streets to support the cover up of a child’s rape? I can’t imagine what that young man must be feeling as he witnesses this. Ignoring a pedophile and rapist to protect a football team’s image? How screwed up are we when football is more important than the safety of our children?

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As usual, only half of the story was being reported. The rioting was because Joe was fired, when the Attorney General said Although his actions were not criminal, because he reported it to his supervisors, he had a MORAL obligation to do more. The students were also protesting at the Presidents house and office, demanding he resign.

There were LIKE (just over looked) demonstrations by students about the cover up. And yes, how screwed up are we, as you said, when a football
program is more important than the safety of our children.

Penn State was the teaching institution that employed Rene' Portland...remember her? A very successful womens basketball coach who was overtly homophobic. The University let that go on too until they had the pants sued off of them and Rene was forced to resign.

The Penn State story is far from over. (very sad)

[Apocalipstic]

The media leaves out so many important details.

[purepisces]

As usual, only half of the story was being reported. The rioting was because Joe was fired, when the Attorney General said Although his actions were not criminal, because he reported it to his supervisors, he had a MORAL obligation to do more. The students were also protesting at the Presidents house and office, demanding he resign.
The Penn State story is far from over. (very sad)[/QUOTE]

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Yes, exactly, they were rioting because Joe was fired. Joe Paterno & Penn State = rape cover up (I believe that Joe is admiting he did nothing but tell the Athletic Director). Therefore, in my eyes, rioting because Joe was fired = support of the cover up.

*To clarify, I don’t think any of the demonstrators were actively supporting rape or its cover up, just poorly placed loyalty.*

[Medusa]

You can insert any number of articles that deal with telling me as a woman what I am "allowed" to do with my body and I pretty much start to twitch.

The idea that I don't own my own body, that another human being has any input on what I do with my vagina, is appalling on every level to me.

The other idea that someone wants to regulate my body based on what they think a God that I don't even believe in says is...well, needless to say I get enraged about this.

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by purepisces

As usual, only half of the story was being reported. The rioting was because Joe was fired, when the Attorney General said Although his actions were not criminal, because he reported it to his supervisors, he had a MORAL obligation to do more. The students were also protesting at the Presidents house and office, demanding he resign.
The Penn State story is far from over. (very sad)

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Yes, exactly, they were rioting because Joe was fired. Joe Paterno & Penn State = rape cover up (I believe that Joe is admiting he did nothing but tell the Athletic Director). Therefore, in my eyes, rioting because Joe was fired = support of the cover up.

*To clarify, I don’t think any of the demonstrators were actively supporting rape or its cover up, just poorly placed loyalty.*[/QUOTE]

Please don't misconstrue what I posted as argumentitive. I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU!!! I'm totally blown away it's been buried for as long as 15 years. The 60 min. news this morning had excellent coverage, 45 min. of Penn state. Students, male and female crying. (about the rape cover up)

[SoNotHer]

It is far from over. Now that the facade is down, the unraveling begins.

When lights, cameras, and big contracts became part of college football, folks started to get thrown under the crushing wheel - folks like Lizzy Seeburg, a 19 year old freshman who took her own life last year after she filed charges against a Notre Dame football player for a sexual attack.

In the 15 days Seeberg was alive after the attack, she stated that she feared that others would dislike her for accusing a Notre Dame athlete of a sex crime and that she would wear something 'like a scarlet letter' throughout her college career.

And with good reason. One of the football players texted her the morning after, "Don’t do anything you would regret,” and "Messing with notre dame football is a bad idea.” Prosecutors would later dismiss any idea that the text was a threat that rose to the level of criminality and they waited until after Lizzy's death to interview the accused. They spent six days 'looking for the player,' even after the player had taken the field twice in that time in front of thousands of people.

After being mishandled by the police, the university and a school counselor, Seeburg became despondent and self conscious and took her own life. And it was a promising one.

No charges will be brought now against the player, at least in part because Lizzy isn't alive to offer testimony. A sad irony and a sad statement about the victims an causalities of the crushing machine.

Go team.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ll-player.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-lizz...5#.TrwWdfJjO2s
http://www.care2.com/causes/notre-da...ing-raped.html
http://www.newser.com/story/107789/p...rape-case.html


[quote=Yellow band;460360]

Originally Posted by purepisces

When I woke up this morning I was relieved to hear that Joe Paterno had been fired and the president of Penn State had resigned (why not fired?). I also would have been ok if they had just been suspended without pay while the investigation was completed, although it doesn’t seem that anyone is contesting the fact that there was a cover up.

What I can’t believe is the public’s reaction. WTF people! Rioting in the streets to support the cover up of a child’s rape? I can’t imagine what that young man must be feeling as he witnesses this. Ignoring a pedophile and rapist to protect a football team’s image? How screwed up are we when football is more important than the safety of our children?

***

As usual, only half of the story was being reported. The rioting was because Joe was fired, when the Attorney General said Although his actions were not criminal, because he reported it to his supervisors, he had a MORAL obligation to do more. The students were also protesting at the Presidents house and office, demanding he resign.

There were LIKE (just over looked) demonstrations by students about the cover up. And yes, how screwed up are we, as you said, when a football
program is more important than the safety of our children.

Penn State was the teaching institution that employed Rene' Portland...remember her? A very successful womens basketball coach who was overtly homophobic. The University let that go on too until they had the pants sued off of them and Rene was forced to resign.

The Penn State story is far from over. (very sad)

[AtLast]

This is just horrible! The whole damn thing! And take a look at this-

Sister of Jerry Sandusky victim talks about the pain of life at Penn State where students are joking about being 'Sanduskied'

All of the school officials are responsible for this abuse continuing! This should have been reported to police immediately- in fact, that is the law, teachers, administrators, etc. are required to report.

The only action taken with Sandusky was that his keys to the showers/locker room were taken away??

Paterno and all are culpable. I hope that they all face criminal charges as well as have their asses sued by the victims and their families.

What is wrong with people? I guess it's that Paterno is God...

[Dominique]

Originally Posted by AtLast

This is just horrible! The whole damn thing! And take a look at this-

Sister of Jerry Sandusky victim talks about the pain of life at Penn State where students are joking about being 'Sanduskied'

All of the school officials are responsible for this abuse continuing! This should have been reported to police immediately- in fact, that is the law, teachers, administrators, etc. are required to report.

The only action taken with Sandusky was that his keys to the showers/locker room were taken away??

Paterno and all are culpable. I hope that they all face criminal charges as well as have their asses sued by the victims and their families.

What is wrong with people? I guess it's that Paterno is God...

The *talk* around town, after a private meeting tomorrow with the Gov. and the Attorney General and what's left at Penn State, Tom Ridge will be brought in to take over. I hope so!

Also, the voice of Penn State yesterday was John Surma, President and C.E.O of U.S. Steel. He was quoted in the Pgh paper this morning saying *Since Penn State refused to inform the public and made themselves unavailable to any form of media, I was available.* He was acting on behalf of the Board.

[Dominique]

Can I just say....They fired Paterno over the phone....

Ironic isn't it. All he had to do was pick up a phone and tell *someone*

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Yellow band

Can I just say....They fired Paterno over the phone....

Ironic isn't it. All he had to do was pick up a phone and tell *someone*

Whoa, this is ironic! Also, when he told his superior- that idiot should have picked up the damn phone!

I hope Paterno has good legal representation- his "retirement" is about to get very expensive.

[Dominique]

I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might happen," Madden said on the radio. "I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile Foundation -- and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross, I will use the only language I can -- that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak."