OCCUPY WALL STREET

[Corkey]

http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-6...235908339.html

Goodbye habius corpus, goodbye my vote for Obama.

[SoNotHer]

Damn....

"Unnerving many conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats, the legislation also would deny suspected terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention. House Republican leaders had to tamp down a small revolt among some rank-and-file who sought to delay a vote on the bill."

Originally Posted by Corkey

http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-6...235908339.html

Goodbye habius corpus, goodbye my vote for Obama.

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

Damn....

"Unnerving many conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats, the legislation also would deny suspected terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention. House Republican leaders had to tamp down a small revolt among some rank-and-file who sought to delay a vote on the bill."

Yup, and Obama is going to sign that piece of shit.

[SoNotHer]

I love this woman's spirit and what she is doing to fight the new round of voter suppression laws.

Worth the watch -

[atomiczombie]

Ya know, this bill that will suspend habeas corpus and repeal the federal rules of criminal procedure, I am just dumbfounded that Obama is going to sign it. It is against everything he ran for in 2008. That he takes all this corporate money for his campaign speaks to how much he has been bought and paid for by the 1%.

As I have said before, the longer we choose the lesser of two evils for president, the longer 2 evils will be our only choices. We need stand up and reject the two party system. The 99 Declaration committee is actively working to get delegates from every congressional district to come together in Philadelphia on July 4th 2012 and vote on a list of demands to put to the president and congress. Let's throw our support behind them. They are the best hope for our voices to be heard.

https://www.facebook.com/www.the99declaration.org

Right now their site, www.the99declaration.org, is having technical issues but they will get it resolved soon. They will be voting on delegates in 96 days.

THE PLAN

1. Elect one man and one woman from each of the 435 congressional districts in March 2012 plus six delegates from Washington,D.C., Puerto Rico and the U.S. Territories. Voting will be online, possibly telephone and at local polling places.

2. Between March 2012 and July 2012, these delegates will draft a list of grievances. Candidates running in the primaries and general election will be called upon to state their positions on the issues being debated by the 876 delegates.

3. During the week of July 4, 2012, the 876 delegates will meet in Philadelphia at a National General Assembly to ratify and sign a final petition for a redress of grievances and solutions and plan a potential new independent party to run in the 2014 mid-term election.

4. The ratified petition for a redress of grievances shall be served upon all three branches of government and all candidates running for federal political office in 2012.

5. The National General Assembly will then wait a reasonable period of time for the 113th Congress, President and Supreme Court to act upon and redress the grievances listed in the petition. Political candidates in the 2012 election will be asked whether they support the petition.

6. If the grievances are not redressed and solutions implemented within a reasonable time, the National General Assembly will reconvene electronically or in person and organize a new independent political party to run for all of the 435 House seats and 33 Senate seats in 2014.

More on the Indefinite Detention Inserted Into Defense Authorization Act: http://occupywallst.org/forum/obama-...cupy-must-sta/

[Greyson]

This piece is from an Urban Planner Blog I read. Below I have posted the link to the full piece and snipped a paragraph in hopes of getting your attention, interest.
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Since too much inequality can foment revolt and instability, the CIA regularly updates statistics on income distribution for countries around the world, including the U.S. Between 1997 and 2007, inequality in the U.S. grew by almost 10 percent, making it more unequal than Russia, infamous for its powerful oligarchs. The U.S. is not faring well historically, either. Even the Roman Empire, a society built on conquest and slave labor, had a more equitable income distribution.



http://http://persquaremile.com/2011/12/16/income-inequality-in-the-roman-empire/

[SoNotHer]

This was exquisite reading, Greyson. Thank you for posting it.

Originally Posted by Greyson

This piece is from an Urban Planner Blog I read. Below I have posted the link to the full piece and snipped a paragraph in hopes of getting your attention, interest.
__________________________________________________ _______________


Since too much inequality can foment revolt and instability, the CIA regularly updates statistics on income distribution for countries around the world, including the U.S. Between 1997 and 2007, inequality in the U.S. grew by almost 10 percent, making it more unequal than Russia, infamous for its powerful oligarchs. The U.S. is not faring well historically, either. Even the Roman Empire, a society built on conquest and slave labor, had a more equitable income distribution.



http://http://persquaremile.com/2011/12/16/income-inequality-in-the-roman-empire/

[Ebon]

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

Ya know, this bill that will suspend habeas corpus and repeal the federal rules of criminal procedure, I am just dumbfounded that Obama is going to sign it. It is against everything he ran for in 2008. That he takes all this corporate money for his campaign speaks to how much he has been bought and paid for by the 1%.

As I have said before, the longer we choose the lesser of two evils for president, the longer 2 evils will be our only choices. We need stand up and reject the two party system. The 99 Declaration committee is actively working to get delegates from every congressional district to come together in Philadelphia on July 4th 2012 and vote on a list of demands to put to the president and congress. Let's throw our support behind them. They are the best hope for our voices to be heard.

https://www.facebook.com/www.the99declaration.org

Right now their site, www.the99declaration.org, is having technical issues but they will get it resolved soon. They will be voting on delegates in 96 days.




More on the Indefinite Detention Inserted Into Defense Authorization Act: http://occupywallst.org/forum/obama-...cupy-must-sta/

I always knew Mr. Smiles wasn't "special and magic" like everyone thought he was, even I fell for it for a minute. Then I started researching and finding out how tight he was with wall street. Usually people like him are the most vicious. He likes corporate money just like the rest of them.

I like this plan and I will support it. But careful we might end up in one of these holding places for life. I hate to say it and I don't like the guy but all the shit that Alex Jones talked about when he spoke of this stuff is coming to fruition. Starting with the law that Obama is about to sign. I wonder how much he's getting paid for it.

Alex also said that juice boxes makes people gay so it's kind of hard to take him serious.

[SoNotHer]

I just thought I'd take a minute in this thread to note the passing of Christopher Hitchens. Dogged, controversial, brilliant and incendiary, he was a tenacious fighter for so many things, not the least of which was freedom of thought and the right and value of individual expression.


16 December 2011
Christopher Hitchens dies at 62 after suffering cancer

British-born author, literary critic and journalist Christopher Hitchens has died at the age of 62.

He died from pneumonia, a complication of the oesophageal cancer he had, at a Texas hospital. Vanity Fair magazine, which announced his death, said there would "never be another like Christopher". He is survived by his wife, Carol Blue, and their daughter, Antonia, and his children from a previous marriage, Alexander and Sophia.

Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter described the writer as someone "of ferocious intellect, who was as vibrant on the page as he was at the bar". "Those who read him felt they knew him, and those who knew him were profoundly fortunate souls."



Hitchens was born in Portsmouth in 1949 and graduated from Oxford in 1970. He began his career as a journalist in Britain in the 1970s and later moved to New York, becoming contributing editor to Vanity Fair in November 1992.

"Prospect of death makes me sober, objective"

He was diagnosed with cancer in June 2010, and documented his declining health in his Vanity Fair column. In an August 2010 essay for the magazine he wrote: "I love the imagery of struggle. "I sometimes wish I were suffering in a good cause, or risking my life for the good of others, instead of just being a gravely endangered patient."

Speaking on the BBC's Newsnight programme, in November that year, he reflected on a life that he knew would be cut short: "It does concentrate the mind, of course, to realise that your life is more rationed than you thought it was." Radicalised by the 1960s, Hitchens was often arrested at political rallies and was kicked out of the Labour Party over his opposition to the Vietnam War. He became a correspondent for the Socialist Workers Party's International Socialism magazine.

In later life he moved away from the left. Following the September 11 attacks he argued with Noam Chomsky and others who suggested that US foreign policy had helped cause the tragedy. He supported the Iraq War and backed George W Bush for re-election in 2004.

It led to him being accused of betrayal: one former friend called him "a lying, opportunistic, cynical contrarian", another critic said he was "a drink-sodden ex-Trotskyist popinjay". But he could dish out scathing critiques himself. He called Bill Clinton "a cynical, self-seeking ambitious thug", Henry Kissinger a war criminal and Mother Teresa a fraudulent fanatic.

'A great voice'

He also famously fell out with his brother, the Mail on Sunday journalist Peter Hitchens, though the pair were later reconciled. Hitchens could be a loyal friend. He stood by the author Salman Rushdie during the furor that followed the publication of his novel The Satanic Verses. Writing on Twitter after the announcement of Hitchens' death, Mr Rushdie said: "Goodbye, my beloved friend. A great voice falls silent. A great heart stops."

Former Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair publicly debated religion with Hitchens at the Munk Debate in Toronto in November 2010. "Christopher Hitchens was a complete one-off, an amazing mixture of writer, journalist, polemicist, and unique character," said Mr Blair.

"He was fearless in the pursuit of truth and any cause in which he believed. And there was no belief he held that he did not advocate with passion, commitment and brilliance.

"He was an extraordinary, compelling and colourful human being whom it was a privilege to know." The MP Denis McShane was a student at Oxford with Hitchens. He said: "Christopher just swam against every tide. He was a supporter of the Polish and Czech resistance of the 1970s, he supported Mrs Thatcher because he thought getting rid of the Argentinian fascist junta was a good idea. "He was a cross between Voltaire and Orwell. He loved words."

"He could throw words up into the sky, they fell down in a marvellous pattern.
Christopher Hitchens was everything a great essayist should be: infuriating, brilliant, highly provocative and yet intensely serious”

The publication of his 2007 book God Is Not Great made him a major celebrity in his adopted homeland of the United States, and he happily took on the role of the country's best-known atheist.

He maintained his devout atheism after being diagnosed with cancer, telling one interviewer: "No evidence or argument has yet been presented which would change my mind. But I like surprises." The author and prominent atheist Richard Dawkins described him as the "finest orator of our time" and a "valiant fighter against all tyrants including God". He said Hitchens had been a "wonderful mentor in a way".

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, who once worked as an intern for Hitchens, said: "Christopher Hitchens was everything a great essayist should be: infuriating, brilliant, highly provocative and yet intensely serious.

"He will be massively missed by everyone who values strong opinions and great writing." Hitchens wrote for numerous publications including The Times Literary Supplement, the Daily Express, the London Evening Standard, Newsday and The Atlantic. He was the author of 17 books, including The Trial of Henry Kissinger, How Religion Poisons Everything, and a memoir, Hitch-22.

A collection of his essays, Arguably, was released this year.

The story continues at -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16212418

[persiphone]

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

Ya know, this bill that will suspend habeas corpus and repeal the federal rules of criminal procedure, I am just dumbfounded that Obama is going to sign it. It is against everything he ran for in 2008. That he takes all this corporate money for his campaign speaks to how much he has been bought and paid for by the 1%.

As I have said before, the longer we choose the lesser of two evils for president, the longer 2 evils will be our only choices. We need stand up and reject the two party system. The 99 Declaration committee is actively working to get delegates from every congressional district to come together in Philadelphia on July 4th 2012 and vote on a list of demands to put to the president and congress. Let's throw our support behind them. They are the best hope for our voices to be heard.

https://www.facebook.com/www.the99declaration.org

Right now their site, www.the99declaration.org, is having technical issues but they will get it resolved soon. They will be voting on delegates in 96 days.




More on the Indefinite Detention Inserted Into Defense Authorization Act: http://occupywallst.org/forum/obama-...cupy-must-sta/

good. i've been waiting for this and this is where my efforts will go