Hannah Free, a butch-femme movie! - Page 2

musicman · 02-15-2010, 05:07 AM

I was hoping to find Hannah Free on the met somewhere. we wouldn't get it here in my town. I saw the trailer for it and it looks fantastic.

Eventually someone will get it up on youtube .

Musicman

Gemme · 02-15-2010, 10:16 PM

What was wrong with "Patch Adams"? The others I get. Just curious.

Random · 02-15-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

I dunno................I think Salmonberries with KD Lang runs a close second or even beats Claire.....

Oh gads.. you had to dredge that piece of work up.....

Even as a young barely out of the closet, didn't know a single gay woman, living vicarously through melissa etherage vidios, I couldn't work up an emotion other that.. oh.. pretty landscape...

damn.. it... I now have that tune in my head...

Go eat your popcorn....

Toughy · 02-15-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ms Cyn

Oh gads.. you had to dredge that piece of work up.....

Even as a young barely out of the closet, didn't know a single gay woman, living vicarously through melissa etherage vidios, I couldn't work up an emotion other that.. oh.. pretty landscape...

damn.. it... I now have that tune in my head...

Go eat your popcorn....

yes Ma'am...........laughing....

*munch munch*

would you like some??

Random · 02-16-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Toughy

yes Ma'am...........laughing....

*munch munch*

would you like some??

Lol..

sure.... mmmmm extra buttery....

christie · 07-25-2010, 11:03 AM

I managed to pick up the DVD on Ebay. We just finished watching it and I thought it was very well done - characters you could relate to - and of course, it made me cry.

If you haven't seen it, I think its worth it!

Converse · 07-26-2010, 01:43 PM

I really enjoyed the movie. I have a pretty extensive “women with women” video/dvd collection- which I started years ago when any movie with even the hint of something that could be seen as queer and female was jumped on. As like many of us I’m sure, I was desperate to find some kind of representation on the big screen. After many years of always looking for some kind of hidden meaning in the classics, the Hollywood lesbian movies started to appear.

Of course I grabbed those with equal enthusiasm; however, there was almost something even more alienating about them then any of the other mainstream movies. These lesbians, if they didn’t “lapse” back to their str8 ways, or were focused on having to “choose” because of their bisexuality, then they always ended up being attracted to their mirror image; every movie seemed like a scene from a girl’s dorm- with any sexual activity being as exciting as a pillow fight. There comes a point when the Lword, used as the tool for gaining visibility, does more harm than good.

There are very, very few well made films that are true to the Butch-Femme dynamic- in my opinion Hannah Free is one of them. The sexual dynamic, where the lust continues throughout their entire relationship and the “can’t keep my hands off of you” attraction was so well done- and as bonne-maman said, so many other familiar issues. Its not a movie with an extraordinary storyline, the “extraordiness” for me, came from finding representation- I nodded a lot.

christie- my girl cried too.

Still not sure why exactly- but she said she liked it anyway.

Strappie · 07-26-2010, 02:35 PM

Oh I know.... I'm going to get ripped on for this...

Whatever happened to people supporting something even though it's not perfect? Here is a movie that clearly is getting recognition but yet our own community can't support the fact they at least they are trying to get a message across and show that we are REAL PEOPLE in the world.

Instead of making light hearted jokes, how about we instead maybe thank them for getting the message out there? I don't know it's an idea.

Let the ripping begin!!

Strappie · 07-26-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Converse

I really enjoyed the movie. I have a pretty extensive “women with women” video/dvd collection- which I started years ago when any movie with even the hint of something that could be seen as queer and female was jumped on. As like many of us I’m sure, I was desperate to find some kind of representation on the big screen. After many years of always looking for some kind of hidden meaning in the classics, the Hollywood lesbian movies started to appear.

Of course I grabbed those with equal enthusiasm; however, there was almost something even more alienating about them then any of the other mainstream movies. These lesbians, if they didn’t “lapse” back to their str8 ways, or were focused on having to “choose” because of their bisexuality, then they always ended up being attracted to their mirror image; every movie seemed like a scene from a girl’s dorm- with any sexual activity being as exciting as a pillow fight. There comes a point when the Lword, used as the tool for gaining visibility, does more harm than good.

There are very, very few well made films that are true to the Butch-Femme dynamic- in my opinion Hannah Free is one of them. The sexual dynamic, where the lust continues throughout their entire relationship and the “can’t keep my hands off of you” attraction was so well done- and as bonne-maman said, so many other familiar issues. Its not a movie with an extraordinary storyline, the “extraordiness” for me, came from finding representation- I nodded a lot.

christie- my girl cried too.

Still not sure why exactly- but she said she liked it anyway.

Converse you still continue to get me to perv your writing!

Ebon · 07-26-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Bonne-o-rama, please to explain "obvious lesbian issues."

What are these issues?

Does this involve: Monograms? Fanny pack selection? Which one is "the man?"

Probably involves which Uhaul place to rent from or who wears which pair of Birkenstocks.

dreadgeek · 07-26-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclopea

Oh dear god. I actually dragged my ass into the theatre to see that one. We wanted to cover our faces as we left.
"Claire of the Moon" is the "Patch Adams", "Ishtar", "Showgirls" of Lesbian cinema.
I'm still cringing.
But someday they will watch it at midnight showings and dress up and throw toast at the screen.
OK maybe not. If it had been a musical perhaps...

Sweet Jesus, Claire of the Moon was painful. I had more or less recovered from the trauma of seeing it...until today.

dreadgeek · 07-26-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Strappie

Oh I know.... I'm going to get ripped on for this...

Whatever happened to people supporting something even though it's not perfect? Here is a movie that clearly is getting recognition but yet our own community can't support the fact they at least they are trying to get a message across and show that we are REAL PEOPLE in the world.

Instead of making light hearted jokes, how about we instead maybe thank them for getting the message out there? I don't know it's an idea.

Let the ripping begin!!

But the ritualistic eating of our own is such a time-honored tradition. Plus a certain level of critique is justified if for no other reason than that it will prevent another Claire of the Moon--or at least we could hope. If only someone had gone to the writer, director or producer of that movie and said, "Ummm, there's this thing called a plot. You might try creating one that way people will know that something boring is going to happen and that will build some kind of suspense."

imperfect_cupcake · 07-26-2010, 04:57 PM

I'm presently downloading it off graboid. you can get a free trial of graboid of 30MB. so, if you can't get a hold of it, you can down load it for free.

morningstar55 · 07-26-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Arwen

Sometimes, I'd rather just have the bake sale...thinking back to "Claire of the Moon"--shudder.

it is on DVD........

http://www.hannahfree.com/

Strappie · 07-26-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Organicbutch

Probably involves which Uhaul place to rent from or who wears which pair of Birkenstocks.

I rest my case!!

dark_crystal · 07-26-2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

"Claire of the Moon" is the "Patch Adams", "Ishtar", "Showgirls" of Lesbian cinema.
I'm still cringing.
But someday they will watch it at midnight showings and dress up and throw toast at the screen.
OK maybe not. If it had been a musical perhaps...

i LOVE Showgirls. Especially when they show it on Vh-1's Movies That Rock. They cg in these little bikini tops for the dance numbers

ok i find the cg bikini tops laughable but i really do like the movie. i love Paul Verhoeven.

Corkey · 07-26-2010, 08:28 PM

I like movies with a plot, actually I love to see movies that move me that have a plot I can identify with. I will not spend my money on a plotless movie, I don't care if it was made by Cecil B. D'Mille.
But I applaud the film makers for at least trying.

christie · 07-26-2010, 08:34 PM

Strappie -

I'm not gonna rip you. I think you are exactly correct. Its not a perfectly done movie, but the characters were real - the kind I think most folks can relate to and to me, that was what touched me.

Converse - I cried because I could relate to the position that Hannah was in - the reality of blood family being able to keep Jess away from me in that situation. The reality that no matter how much our relationship might be *tolerated* it is STILL not recognized with the same legal rights as marriage.

Perhaps it hit too close to home having been in an accident last week and instead of Jess being able to focus on getting self and our son on the road for the 4 hour trip to get to me in the ER, Jess had to ensure that the POA's and Durable POA for Healthcare and Living Will documents were in order in the event I was unable to give permission for Jess to be involved in my care. It.just.sucks.

All that aside, I think that Hannah Free was a very realistic view of the BF dynamic. I may have to watch it again!

Ebon · 07-27-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Strappie

I rest my case!!

The defense rests also.

Dylan · 07-27-2010, 01:28 AM

Desert Hearts

Another Claire,
Dylan

And then there was some movie with Muriel Hemingway. She was a runner...who (wait for it. wait for it. wait for it) ends up with the man ('cuz you know, if one of the lesbians in the couple doesn't die at the end, they <naturally> end up with the man)

I think I just officially dated myself

02-15-2010, 05:07 AM	#21
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Converse Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: Hy Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 147 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 323 Thanked 684 Times in 105 Posts Rep Power: 2551406	I really enjoyed the movie. I have a pretty extensive “women with women” video/dvd collection- which I started years ago when any movie with even the hint of something that could be seen as queer and female was jumped on. As like many of us I’m sure, I was desperate to find some kind of representation on the big screen. After many years of always looking for some kind of hidden meaning in the classics, the Hollywood lesbian movies started to appear. Of course I grabbed those with equal enthusiasm; however, there was almost something even more alienating about them then any of the other mainstream movies. These lesbians, if they didn’t “lapse” back to their str8 ways, or were focused on having to “choose” because of their bisexuality, then they always ended up being attracted to their mirror image; every movie seemed like a scene from a girl’s dorm- with any sexual activity being as exciting as a pillow fight. There comes a point when the Lword, used as the tool for gaining visibility, does more harm than good. There are very, very few well made films that are true to the Butch-Femme dynamic- in my opinion Hannah Free is one of them. The sexual dynamic, where the lust continues throughout their entire relationship and the “can’t keep my hands off of you” attraction was so well done- and as bonne-maman said, so many other familiar issues. Its not a movie with an extraordinary storyline, the “extraordiness” for me, came from finding representation- I nodded a lot. christie- my girl cried too. Still not sure why exactly- but she said she liked it anyway. __________________ I don't act this way to change the world. I act this way so that the goddamn world won't change me! -Desert Hearts

07-26-2010, 08:28 PM	#37
Corkey Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Human Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Very Married Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where I want to be Posts: 8,155 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 47,491 Thanked 29,268 Times in 6,637 Posts Rep Power: 21474859	I like movies with a plot, actually I love to see movies that move me that have a plot I can identify with. I will not spend my money on a plotless movie, I don't care if it was made by Cecil B. D'Mille. But I applaud the film makers for at least trying. __________________ "Many proposals have been made to us to adopt your laws, your religion, your manners and your customs. We would be better pleased with beholding the good effects of these doctrines in your own practices, than with hearing you talk about them". ~Old Tassel, Chief of the Tsalagi (Cherokee)

07-25-2010, 11:03 AM	#26
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christie Member How Do You Identify?: A Force with which to be reckoned Preferred Pronoun?: just be nice... Relationship Status: I call her Mine Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Transplanted to the PNW Posts: 1,246 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,552 Thanked 2,476 Times in 706 Posts Rep Power: 14753262	Strappie - I'm not gonna rip you. I think you are exactly correct. Its not a perfectly done movie, but the characters were real - the kind I think most folks can relate to and to me, that was what touched me. Converse - I cried because I could relate to the position that Hannah was in - the reality of blood family being able to keep Jess away from me in that situation. The reality that no matter how much our relationship might be tolerated it is STILL not recognized with the same legal rights as marriage. Perhaps it hit too close to home having been in an accident last week and instead of Jess being able to focus on getting self and our son on the road for the 4 hour trip to get to me in the ER, Jess had to ensure that the POA's and Durable POA for Healthcare and Living Will documents were in order in the event I was unable to give permission for Jess to be involved in my care. It.just.sucks. All that aside, I think that Hannah Free was a very realistic view of the BF dynamic. I may have to watch it again!

07-27-2010, 01:28 AM	#40
Dylan Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Permanently Banned 10/2010 Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: She thinks all my jokes are corny Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Great State O' Posts: 880 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,027 Thanked 1,838 Times in 500 Posts Rep Power: 0	Desert Hearts Another Claire, Dylan And then there was some movie with Muriel Hemingway. She was a runner...who (wait for it. wait for it. wait for it) ends up with the man ('cuz you know, if one of the lesbians in the couple doesn't die at the end, they <naturally> end up with the man) I think I just officially dated myself