Susan G Komen Defunds Planned Parenthood.

[Toughy]

It is NEVER to late to pull out of the run for pink event. Thinking that because the local group is ok, it's ok to give time and money for the local group. Guess what......your money goes to the main office and some stays in the local community.

Komen has never been anything other than a money/power maker. I've never given them one dime of my time or money. I figured it out when I applied for a job with them. I was an activist and they were not the least bit interested in activism that actually helped women. That was the 90s and nothing has changed except the public is finally getting to seeing the nastiness and corruption.

By the way...........I looked at their very fancy financials statements. They run a total of 20% administrative costs........and it has to be higher because you always cook your books to make that admin cost as low as possible (oh wait....I should not say that cuz that means you get to look behind the curtain dorothy)

edited to ad: no matter what you tell yourself about 'I run for those who can't run'.....you are running for Komen and Komen gets your money.

[Hollylane]

I do hear what you're saying Toughy, and I don't disagree with it. I also appreciate the detailed information and your passion.

However, it seems like TexasCowboi has been involved and preparing
for this event for some time, is doing it for the right reasons, and likely agrees with you as well.

[Hollylane]

It's been a heck of a week for the supporters of breast cancer research. Perhaps the person who can really put it in perspective is Linda. As a breast cancer survivor and former supporter of the Susan G. Komen Foundation, her words are incredibly powerful. Watch:

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by Hollylane

It's been a heck of a week for the supporters of breast cancer research. Perhaps the person who can really put it in perspective is Linda. As a breast cancer survivor and former supporter of the Susan G. Komen Foundation, her words are incredibly powerful. Watch:

OMG, I love her.

Fantastic.

[UofMfan]

Karen Handel, Susan G. Komen's Anti-Abortion VP, Drove Decision To Defund Planned Parenthood ~ HuffPo

<snip>...Emails between Komen leadership on the day the Planned Parenthood decision was announced, which were reviewed by HuffPost under the condition they not be published, confirm the source's description of Handel's sole "authority" in crafting and implementing the Planned Parenthood policy.

[Kobi]

But Komen isn't the only apparently apolitical organization experiencing pressure to break ties to Planned Parenthood. While reporting Thursday's story on the right-wing boycott of Girl Scout cookies because of a Colorado council that allowed a transgender seven-year-old to join a troop, I learned that conservatives' biggest complaint with the Girl Scouts is the organization's ties to Planned Parenthood. Sure, inclusion of a transgender girl has some people up in arms. But the Girl Scouts' supposed association with what Cathy Ruse, a blogger for the Family Research Council, described to me as "the biggest abortion business in the US" is the religious right's main beef with the 100-year-old girls' leadership organization.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/02/...7C+MoJoBlog%29

[TexasCowboi]

Originally Posted by Toughy

It is NEVER to late to pull out of the run for pink event. Thinking that because the local group is ok, it's ok to give time and money for the local group. Guess what......your money goes to the main office and some stays in the local community.

Komen has never been anything other than a money/power maker. I've never given them one dime of my time or money. I figured it out when I applied for a job with them. I was an activist and they were not the least bit interested in activism that actually helped women. That was the 90s and nothing has changed except the public is finally getting to seeing the nastiness and corruption.

By the way...........I looked at their very fancy financials statements. They run a total of 20% administrative costs........and it has to be higher because you always cook your books to make that admin cost as low as possible (oh wait....I should not say that cuz that means you get to look behind the curtain dorothy)

edited to ad: no matter what you tell yourself about 'I run for those who can't run'.....you are running for Komen and Komen gets your money.

It's "NEVER too late" ???? yes, I have been preparing for this race for a long time, My money is paid.... was paid before the funding was cut and then uncut.... our local affiliate STILL WORKS WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I don't have to agree with the freaking headquarters idiots to support the local affiliate.
Yes, SGK is a greedy organization....I hate their politics.... but... SGK has helped a handful of my friends.... I cannot and will not ignore that.... Will this be the last SGK race I run in... I don't know... I will watch and wait....
It's not up to you to tell me who I run for or belittle why I'm running..... I AM running for those who cannot run.....

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by TexasCowboi

It's "NEVER too late" ???? yes, I have been preparing for this race for a long time, My money is paid.... was paid before the funding was cut and then uncut.... our local affiliate STILL WORKS WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I don't have to agree with the freaking headquarters idiots to support the local affiliate.
Yes, SGK is a greedy organization....I hate their politics.... but... SGK has helped a handful of my friends.... I cannot and will not ignore that.... Will this be the last SGK race I run in... I don't know... I will watch and wait....
It's not up to you to tell me who I run for or belittle why I'm running..... I AM running for those who cannot run.....

My comments were directed at the ideas, not you Texas Cowboi.

Planned Parenthood never had funding cut. The local affiliates are still working with PP based on the money awarded during the last grant cycle. The Komen BoD under VP of Public Policy Handel (a right wing nut job) changed the rules for this next grant cycle specifically to keep PP from applying. PP was denied the ability to submit proposals for the next grant cycle. After the uproar, Komen said PP could apply in the next grant cycle. Planned Parenthood may or may not be granted money in this next cycle. Komen is doing the 'watch this hand' game, however the truth about them is finally coming to light.

If any person thinks it's too late to pull out, I have a suggestion. First, wear nothing with the Komen logo (ever again). Second, wear a sign that says this is your last run because Komen does not support women's health.

I absolutely know one of my best friends in this world, who died (age 45) of breast cancer not detected by mammogram (so much for early detection), would haunt me for the rest of my life if I gave a penny to any and every group that had the Komen brand on it.

[TexasCowboi]

Originally Posted by Toughy

My comments were directed at the ideas, not you Texas Cowboi.

Planned Parenthood never had funding cut. The local affiliates are still working with PP based on the money awarded during the last grant cycle. The Komen BoD under VP of Public Policy Handel (a right wing nut job) changed the rules for this next grant cycle specifically to keep PP from applying. PP was denied the ability to submit proposals for the next grant cycle. After the uproar, Komen said PP could apply in the next grant cycle. Planned Parenthood may or may not be granted money in this next cycle. Komen is doing the 'watch this hand' game, however the truth about them is finally coming to light.

If any person thinks it's too late to pull out, I have a suggestion. First, wear nothing with the Komen logo (ever again). Second, wear a sign that says this is your last run because Komen does not support women's health.

I absolutely know one of my best friends in this world, who died (age 45) of breast cancer not detected by mammogram (so much for early detection), would haunt me for the rest of my life if I gave a penny to any and every group that had the Komen brand on it.

""no matter what you tell yourself about 'I run for those who can't run'.....you are running for Komen and Komen gets your money" ok, that read that you were belittling my running for these people who are so sickened with this disease that they cant run themself..... I run for them.... you belittled and criticized My "ideas" .... you belittle me. bottom line is you dont get to tell me who I run for Toughy......

I wonder if I can get Team Jogging for Jugs or Trotting for Titties or even Bowling for Boobs off the ground as another Cancer Charity sporting event...

[TexasCowboi]

Originally Posted by Toughy

My comments were directed at the ideas, not you Texas Cowboi.


If any person thinks it's too late to pull out, I have a suggestion. First, wear nothing with the Komen logo (ever again). Second, wear a sign that says this is your last run because Komen does not support women's health.

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Toughy..... #1 For me.... it is too late to pull out of the race..... get past that please...... #2 I am ALREADY planning a protest during the race...... My own protest..... Trust me.... it will be a good one......I've already run it by several people.... #3.... not gonna post a sign saying that this will be my last run because I dont know if this will be my last run.... I will be watching Komen very closelu to see what they do with their funding.... while they support the underprivileged women of our county area

[pynkkameleon]

I'm very anti-Komen and have been for quite some time now. I was also diagnosed with aggressive Breast Cancer in October 2009.

with that said...

I fully support and am proud of TC's decision to run in this event. The decision to participate was a long thought out and well planned one. It is a decision to race FOR the survivors and for those precious lives we have lost. It's not to race in support of Komen. As far as the money goes. Yes, there will be funds raised and yes, only some of the money will stay within the community. Approximately 75%. That's 75% more funds available to benefit those in need. For this purpose, I'm okay with that. I honor and respect TC's and any other person's decision to participate in these events. It is their own choice and they almost all race for someone they care for and/or for whom they have lost. I'm not going to take that away from them, even if I do believe that SGK does not have their priorities or funding straight. I expect that we will see more than just TC running in a SGK sponsored race, protesting in their own way throughout the country. I see it as an act of activism, bravery and wonderful bit of "F-U". We each protest in the ways that we can. Some by giving their time or money to more deserving organizations, some via word of mouth and by educating others, some silently, some boldly and some just as TC has chosen to do.

Toughy - My heart aches for the loss of your friend.

[Toughy]

...look Texas Cowboi....you do not own the idea of whether to run or not, wear a pink ribbon or not, protest or not. Once again, I was not belittling you, I was giving my opinion about raising money for Komen by running. I offered a suggestion or two for those who still want to run. This is soooooooo not about you the person Cowboi.

We human beings tell ourselves all kinds of things about why we do things and it makes us feel better if we feel like we are doing something good. That includes me.

In the end, the money goes to the general fund of Komen. Every penny raised in their events is an unrestricted donation that Komen can spend anyway they want. Komen cuts a deal with the local affiliates for part of that money. That's how it works. You can pretty up the language to make it sound all nice, however just remember the Board of Directors approved this endeavor. That would be the leadership, so I bet a dollar to a donut PP will either get no money or drastically reduced money in the next grant cycle.

Vonni, thanks for your condolences......

[Soon]

BREAKING: Anti-Choice Komen VP Karen Handel Resigns, Admits Role In Plan\ned Parenthood Decision

Her resignation letter: http://karenhandelkomen.com/

[TexasCowboi]

Originally Posted by Toughy

...look Texas Cowboi....you do not own the idea of whether to run or not, wear a pink ribbon or not, protest or not. Once again, I was not belittling you, I was giving my opinion about raising money for Komen by running. I offered a suggestion or two for those who still want to run. This is soooooooo not about you the person Cowboi.

We human beings tell ourselves all kinds of things about why we do things and it makes us feel better if we feel like we are doing something good. That includes me.

In the end, the money goes to the general fund of Komen. Every penny raised in their events is an unrestricted donation that Komen can spend anyway they want. Komen cuts a deal with the local affiliates for part of that money. That's how it works. You can pretty up the language to make it sound all nice, however just remember the Board of Directors approved this endeavor. That would be the leadership, so I bet a dollar to a donut PP will either get no money or drastically reduced money in the next grant cycle.

Vonni, thanks for your condolences......

no one ever said I owned the idea of running, wearing a pink ribbon or whatnot... and no one, not even myself, said this was about me.... it was about your "tone".....

sometimes moderation is a good thing....

As long as our local affiliate still works with Planned Parenthood, I will be ok with it.... Should they stop working with PP, then I'll stop running in their race....

I understand everyone's issue with Komen.... I have the same issues with that organization......... My friends' memories.... my friends' battles..... are worth way more than the 35 dollar entry fee. I'm not raising any money for SGK foundation..... I'm not wearing the SGK pink ribbon symbol.... in fact, I'll probably have the letters SGK across my ass....and the letters P P on my really visible biggo pink bra..... and when I run by any camera, I'm gonna flip up the back of my tu-tu and show my ass to the camera.....