Privacy?

Point~Of~No~Return · 03-12-2012, 08:09 PM

Ok it is always good to know though

that was one of the questions i had about membership since there are the terms of service how do you prove it with the invisibility status

any other tips or suggestions for online safety on your site?

Corkey · 03-12-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Point~Of~No~Return

Ok it is always good to know though

that was one of the questions i had about membership since there are the terms of service how do you prove it with the invisibility status

any other tips or suggestions for online safety on your site?

There is no such animal as online safety on any site. Anyone can read anyone else's posts except for the red zone and another forum. So if you are expecting to be invisible, that isn't going to happen. Your posts are still going to be visible.

Point~Of~No~Return · 03-12-2012, 08:17 PM

it is just nice to know that the serious nature of problems are handled by the administrators of the website the terms of service are awesome

i was directed to this website from a friend and i find it to be a safe area to go

i am sure others feel comfort knowing that the moderators and administrators are stern on the rules and privacy of others

the gossip, across domains, it gives a comforting feeling i am happy and excited to be here!

thank you for the information

Point~Of~No~Return · 03-12-2012, 08:24 PM

thank you all so much for your input!!

i really enjoyed this topic and answers

Point~Of~No~Return · 03-12-2012, 08:42 PM

awesome to know!

Passionaria · 03-13-2012, 05:33 PM

I am confused about some terminology that comes up at times regarding some of the "privacy issues".

With the internet being public domain, anything you write on a public forum as I understand it becomes public information. Just Google your screen name and put in butch femme lol it's out there. I google myself frequently because of the nature of my work, and believe me it's all out there. So while this is a group unto it's self, because it's the internet I think we need to keep in mind that once we hit submit, our sharing's are now recorded public information. HMMM makes one think, right?

So participating on the internet is not private. Reading can be, but written information is not, this includes profiles, forum posts, anything written down. I believe images as well.

My next thought in this convo is the loose usage of the word "stalking". This being a public forum, we all wonder who is on here, and what they are about. That's why we read each others posts, look at profiles, comment etc. There are some eloquent writers and really funny people on here. People with strong opinions as well as those looking for love or new friends. It's all part of the online community experience. So if someone is interesting in their online presence, it may attract onlookers, followers even. This is not stalking, in my mind. LOL look at my profile all you want follow my posts, it's a compliment isn't it? I know there are people on here who's expressions interest me, and at times I will go see what they have been up to. Isn't that part of what an online community is all about?

Where we cross the line in my mind is when a member is being verbally attacked, or contacted PERSONALLY via forum or PM by someone who's behavior is bothersome or threatening. I think this is where stalking comes in. And intervention may be necessary. I think it's important to be clear about this. We all joke about who's stalking who today, and I always understood that to mean they were interested in what you are saying or doing, like it's a fun thing.

I guess my point in all of this is if a person is not contacting you personally, harassing you directly or indirectly, take a deep breath and enjoy the public sharing. The question then becomes does one feel safe sharing themselves in a public place, where what is written and shared can and will be seen by others basically when ever they want. I understand some people have reasons for being private, and needing to feel safe, so you have to know you are ready for all this.....

Anyway,
xoxox Pashi (who knows this can be google-ed)

Chancie · 03-13-2012, 06:26 PM

So I did a search on 'chancie', 'butch', and 'femme', and an archived birthday thread from the old site came up, and boy, was that bittersweet.

aishah · 03-21-2012, 05:15 PM

re: the actual thread topic,

i'm glad someone brought this up. personally i'd be a lot more comfortable if people had to register to be able to read here. i run a forum where people have to register to see posts - the main site is still indexed and searchable by google if you search on the forum topic, but you can't find specific information or posts by/about people through google. i like this space so i post here anyway. i don't have a huge expectation of privacy. but i'd be a lot more comfortable if only registered members could read posts. i don't really give a fuck who's looking at my profile.

edited because i meant to say if people had to register to READ here, not post here, hehehe! thanks for bringing that to my attention corkey.

Point~Of~No~Return · 03-13-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by June

I think these are really good examples, Pashi. Just looking at someones profile or posts is not "stalking" them. If you have a bad relationship with them, or they are your estranged ex, then while I don't necessarily think it's stalking (but could be) it is at the very least, creepy. Why do you care what someone you don't like has to say unless you are actively trying to find fault, mock them or make them feel uncomfortable?

If we choose to post something here, it can be read. Do I think it's okay to post it elsewhere without asking permission? No. That's creepy too. We can either decide to put ourselves out there with a good heart and the hope that folks reading it will have good hearts and no malicious agenda, or hide our sunny little hearts under a rock

^5

we can all hope that there is no malicious intentions of another

it's just nice to know that the forum takes their terms of service seriously it gives a very comforting feeling

but the main question was for the being invisible

The Oopster · 03-13-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by June

Okay -- We just did a test.

In addition to being a Moderator, I am also a paid Sentinel member. I never use the invisible thing, but we created a new test member and I went invisible.

I visited that profile three times, and Medusa (as the test member) could see three visits, but not by who.

So, if you are a Sentinel member and another Sentinel member visits your profile, you can see they were there.

If you are a non-paid member, or at the BFP Supporter I or II (And we appreciate you all equally!) if a Sentinel member visits your profile, you will not be able to see it.

Moderators or Admins, regardless if they have a paid membership can see who has been in your profile, even if you can't.

out of curiosity can the mods and admins see how often someone visits the profile or just that they have visited it?

suebee · 03-13-2012, 08:23 PM

Canadian currency at par I presume?

The Oopster · 03-13-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by June

That's classified.

Please insert another quarter.

i'm not that curious!

Point~Of~No~Return · 03-15-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Oopster

i'm not that curious!

LMAO!

Ok i'll give you 50cents

Ginger · 03-15-2012, 11:01 AM

Wow, I had no idea that different membership levels have different privacy levels, that the "higher" up you are, the less able others are, to see where you visit on the site, if I'm understanding correctly.

Heightened invisibility, then, becomes a kind of reward? That's intriguing. In the city where I live, class differences determine levels of privacy. Having private outdoor space is a luxury beyond what most people can dream of. Even having yoru own room, in many families, is both an experience of privacy and a determinate of class status.

Privacy, exposure—really interesting things to think about.

03-13-2012, 05:33 PM	#6
Passionaria Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Urban Bohemian : http://youtu.be/IM96Ch9Gx4A Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: She ran away with with the Gypsy's ✿ Posts: 2,519 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,316 Thanked 3,737 Times in 1,248 Posts Rep Power: 16689910	thoughts~ I am confused about some terminology that comes up at times regarding some of the "privacy issues". With the internet being public domain, anything you write on a public forum as I understand it becomes public information. Just Google your screen name and put in butch femme lol it's out there. I google myself frequently because of the nature of my work, and believe me it's all out there. So while this is a group unto it's self, because it's the internet I think we need to keep in mind that once we hit submit, our sharing's are now recorded public information. HMMM makes one think, right? So participating on the internet is not private. Reading can be, but written information is not, this includes profiles, forum posts, anything written down. I believe images as well. My next thought in this convo is the loose usage of the word "stalking". This being a public forum, we all wonder who is on here, and what they are about. That's why we read each others posts, look at profiles, comment etc. There are some eloquent writers and really funny people on here. People with strong opinions as well as those looking for love or new friends. It's all part of the online community experience. So if someone is interesting in their online presence, it may attract onlookers, followers even. This is not stalking, in my mind. LOL look at my profile all you want follow my posts, it's a compliment isn't it? I know there are people on here who's expressions interest me, and at times I will go see what they have been up to. Isn't that part of what an online community is all about? Where we cross the line in my mind is when a member is being verbally attacked, or contacted PERSONALLY via forum or PM by someone who's behavior is bothersome or threatening. I think this is where stalking comes in. And intervention may be necessary. I think it's important to be clear about this. We all joke about who's stalking who today, and I always understood that to mean they were interested in what you are saying or doing, like it's a fun thing. I guess my point in all of this is if a person is not contacting you personally, harassing you directly or indirectly, take a deep breath and enjoy the public sharing. The question then becomes does one feel safe sharing themselves in a public place, where what is written and shared can and will be seen by others basically when ever they want. I understand some people have reasons for being private, and needing to feel safe, so you have to know you are ready for all this..... Anyway, xoxox Pashi (who knows this can be google-ed) __________________ *Moon cat madness*

03-13-2012, 08:23 PM	#11
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03-12-2012, 08:09 PM	#1
Point~Of~No~Return Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Andro-SMILES Preferred Pronoun?: Andro~Hey You~Yeah I mean you!~ Relationship Status: i hold the keys to my heart and i am only willing to give it to one Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California ~talking to the moon~ Posts: 145 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 567 Thanked 277 Times in 107 Posts Rep Power: 0	Ok it is always good to know though that was one of the questions i had about membership since there are the terms of service how do you prove it with the invisibility status any other tips or suggestions for online safety on your site?

03-12-2012, 08:17 PM	#3
Point~Of~No~Return Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Andro-SMILES Preferred Pronoun?: Andro~Hey You~Yeah I mean you!~ Relationship Status: i hold the keys to my heart and i am only willing to give it to one Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California ~talking to the moon~ Posts: 145 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 567 Thanked 277 Times in 107 Posts Rep Power: 0	it is just nice to know that the serious nature of problems are handled by the administrators of the website the terms of service are awesome i was directed to this website from a friend and i find it to be a safe area to go i am sure others feel comfort knowing that the moderators and administrators are stern on the rules and privacy of others the gossip, across domains, it gives a comforting feeling i am happy and excited to be here! thank you for the information

03-12-2012, 08:24 PM	#4
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03-12-2012, 08:42 PM	#5
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03-13-2012, 06:26 PM	#7
Chancie Senior Member How Do You Identify?: queer femme-inist Relationship Status: I'm lucky. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Western Mass Posts: 3,774 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,518 Thanked 14,540 Times in 2,744 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	So I did a search on 'chancie', 'butch', and 'femme', and an archived birthday thread from the old site came up, and boy, was that bittersweet.

03-21-2012, 05:15 PM	#8
aishah Member How Do You Identify?: queer stone femme shark baby girl Preferred Pronoun?: she, her, little one Relationship Status: dating myself. Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: dallas, tx Posts: 1,495 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,823 Thanked 6,442 Times in 1,288 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	re: the actual thread topic, i'm glad someone brought this up. personally i'd be a lot more comfortable if people had to register to be able to read here. i run a forum where people have to register to see posts - the main site is still indexed and searchable by google if you search on the forum topic, but you can't find specific information or posts by/about people through google. i like this space so i post here anyway. i don't have a huge expectation of privacy. but i'd be a lot more comfortable if only registered members could read posts. i don't really give a fuck who's looking at my profile. edited because i meant to say if people had to register to READ here, not post here, hehehe! thanks for bringing that to my attention corkey.

03-15-2012, 11:01 AM	#14
Ginger Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Femme lesbian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: East coast Posts: 2,416 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,829 Thanked 12,298 Times in 2,057 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Wow, I had no idea that different membership levels have different privacy levels, that the "higher" up you are, the less able others are, to see where you visit on the site, if I'm understanding correctly. Heightened invisibility, then, becomes a kind of reward? That's intriguing. In the city where I live, class differences determine levels of privacy. Having private outdoor space is a luxury beyond what most people can dream of. Even having yoru own room, in many families, is both an experience of privacy and a determinate of class status. Privacy, exposure—really interesting things to think about.