The House of Stone...

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme

You have the heart of a stonefemme even if you're also able to do that lesbian thing......lol.....*shutter*.....sorry, even thinking of that makes me shiver.....can't help it, i'm a hard core stonefemme............
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Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme


There are things i won't do, sexually, on an every day basis. Occasionally, ok. But all the time? Nope. That's that lesbian sex and i'm not a lesbian. i'm a queer stonefemme...........






Your wording in the first post was not speaking of your preferences and you insinuated it seems with a shiver and a shutter like it's not ok or something is wrong with it.

People can state their desires without having to be icked out on what others do.

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme

i see the word warriors are out in force.

i dislike sushi......*shutter*......even thinking about it makes me shiver.....can't help it i'm a hardcore cooked fish eater.

That someone could take MY preference about what I LIKE AND DISLIKE and apply it to a whole community of people is unbelievable. my personal dislike for something doesn't demean those who have a preference for whatever it is that i don't care for.

i have the right to have my own preferences. If someone else dislikes stone sex, and finds it distasteful, and the vast majority of folx in the queer community AREN'T stone, that is not something i take personally. It simply means to each their own and one (wo)man's meat is another (wo)man's poison.

i made it clear that i was referring to MYSELF. Lesbian sex is not something i will ever do because, FOR ME, it's distasteful. Because i am a stonefemme.

Many folx find stone sex distasteful. They are entitled to their own personal preferences....and this is not something i would ever take away from them. Let them have whatever they think is appropriate FOR THEM.

i don't demean others for they personal preferences.......don't demean me for mine.

Should i get kicked off from this website, then so be it. i'll accept it. However, i did so standing up for my own personal beliefs.

[The_Lady_Snow]

It wasn't till your second post that you said you were not a lesbian. I'm still not sure why you would refer to sex (lesbian sex) as:

"that lesbian thing......lol.."

I'm still trying to figure out the *thing* lesbians do that would be so LOL

Maybe you could clarify what that thing is and why it's LOL

[Julie]

SilverStone!

You begin by starting the idea of a great thread for those who are Stone and those who love them.

In your descriptor of what Stone Butch is, you put upon them the pronoun "Hy," perhaps without thinking, there might in fact be Female Identified Stone Butches. In fact, there are quite few here on the planet. By referring to the Masculine counter part of a Femme, as a Hy, you are in fact alienating those people, yet you are quite emphatic in stating this is for all Stone people.

Then you continue on in your writings, by making rather (excuse me) juvenile and inappropriate descriptors of your body language as it Shudders and Shivers at the thought of Lesbian Sex!

What exactly is Lesbian Sex?

I am a Lesbian and I have sex. I have been with Stone Butches, and still I was a Lesbian during that time. This part of my identity has never changed. I came out as a Lesbian in 1979 and will probably die a Lesbian, no matter what my preferences are during the times I fuck. Therefore, I must be having (gasp) lesbian sex.

But what is Lesbian Sex and why would you announce here on the Planet, where we are such a diverse group of queer people, that it is (kinda like Sushi) distasteful? Was this entire thread a setup? Seriously - I am sure you have read the TOS and have seen numerous postings where people get called out for putting other people down and passing judgment. You have been a member here almost 2 years. I think you mentioned you were on the other site. You must have known your words would have caused a reaction. It almost feels intentional.

Still want to know what Lesbian Sex is!

And another thing. You mention in your descriptor that Stone Butches who (my memory - forgive me) own their cocks, or something along those lines - perhaps, an extension of them. I have met many a Stone Butch who do not pack or fuck with cocks. Are they no longer Stone?

Was this thread a setup? I think it's a fair question.

Looking forward to hearing more about your definition of Lesbian Sex, Female ID Stone Butches, Those Stone Butches who do not wear cocks, etc.

Julie

[SilverStoneFemme]

Originally Posted by Julie

You begin by starting the idea of a great thread for those who are Stone and those who love them.

In your descriptor of what Stone Butch is, you put upon them the pronoun "Hy," perhaps without thinking, there might in fact be Female Identified Stone Butches. In fact, there are quite few here on the planet. By referring to the Masculine counter part of a Femme, as a Hy, you are in fact alienating those people, yet you are quite emphatic in stating this is for all Stone people.

Julie

i made it quite clear at the beginning of this thread that those folx who identified with what was described as being stone were welcome to join us. HY was one of those descriptors.

i did NOT say hy without thinking. That was an intention statement. This thread is for those stones who are masculine identified and use the pronoun hy.

If the description of stone here, meaning hy, doesn't match anyone else's definition of stone, those folx can go start a thread that more clearly matches what they think is the definition of stone, including those stones who are woman identified and use the descriptors she and her.

Everyone has the right to start threads for a particular identity. Or anything else for that matter. i have started a thread here for those stones who consider themselves to be representative of the descriptors i've presented. i made it clear if they don't agree with who this group is for, they can start another thread for their own descriptors.

Yourself, included, Julie.

Don't simply disagree and criticize me for what i've done, go put your own definitions into a differnet thread.

[aishah]

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme

i made it quite clear at the beginning of this thread that those folx who identified with what was described as being stone were welcome to join us. HY was one of those descriptors.

i did NOT say hy without thinking. That was an intention statement. This thread is for those stones who are masculine identified and use the pronoun hy.

If the description of stone here, meaning hy, doesn't match anyone else's definition of stone, those folx can go start a thread that more clearly matches what they think is the definition of stone, including those stones who are woman identified and use the descriptors she and her.

Everyone has the right to start threads for a particular identity. Or anything else for that matter. i have started a thread here for those stones who consider themselves to be representative of the descriptors i've presented. i made it clear if they don't agree with who this group is for, they can start another thread for their own descriptors.

Yourself, included, Julie.

Don't simply disagree and criticize me for what i've done, go put your own definitions into a differnet thread.

since my id is clearly unwelcome here, i'll be sticking to the stone femme thread...as another poster said, our part of the community is relatively small. i don't understand the point of making it even smaller, or excluding people. personally it makes me feel like crap. but that's just me.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Just to clarify to the OP, no one is telling you what or how to be. The issue is your choice of wording and how lesbianphobic it sounds:

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme

You have the heart of a stonefemme even if you're also able to do that lesbian thing......lol.....*shutter*.....sorry, even thinking of that makes me shiver.....can't help it, i'm a hard core stonefemme............
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Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme


There are things i won't do, sexually, on an every day basis. Occasionally, ok. But all the time? Nope. That's that lesbian sex and i'm not a lesbian. i'm a queer stonefemme...........

[aishah]

(seems we were all posting at the same time...sorry if this covers ground covered in previous posts.)

i'm not sure why lesbian and stone are being posed here in opposition to one another. they are both identities. some folks here identify as BOTH. they are not kinds of sex...they are identities. some stone folks like to do certain sex acts, some don't. some lesbians like certain sex acts, some don't. some define themselves as both lesbian and stone because they don't or do like sex a certain way. others define themselves as lesbian and stone and may have sex differently. i'm really uncomfortable with the positioning of lesbian and stone as opposite to one another, on the basis of certain sex acts "belonging" to lesbian and certain sex acts "belonging" to stone. i'm not lesbian, and i am stone (though not with the exact same sex boundaries as some folks...maybe with similar boundaries to others), but it still makes me extremely uncomfortable. particularly because there are a LOT of lesbian stone femmes AND butches here. as has already been stated.

if silverstone or others don't like some sex acts and for them that is how they understand stone...that's cool. but that doesn't make some sex acts explicitly "lesbian" and others "stone." they're just sex acts. lesbian and stone are identities. none of those identities or sex acts are inherently better than another, and they do not have to be mutually exclusive.

i for one am grateful that there is another stone thread here. but i don't want having another stone thread to mean we exclude stone folks who don't define themselves exactly one way. or for it to mean that we are positioning stone as somehow opposite or exclusive of lesbian.

[BullDog]

I am a stone butch. I have lesbian sex. I may not engage in the type of sex that you define as "lesbian sex," however I am still having lesbian sex. How is that possible? Because I am a lesbian- a woman who has sex with another woman and who identities as a lesbian. I am also completely stone.

If anyone thinks it gross for two women to have sex together then that's homophobic to the extreme. There is no such thing as lesbian sex in terms of sex acts. Lesbians can have sex in whatever manner they choose- including being stone.

If there are certain sex acts that you don't enjoy that's fine, but you don't have to go ew ick. You can just talk about what you do enjoy. I don't enjoy penetration, but I also don't put down any butch that does.

You can talk about the sex and type of relationships you like without putting anyone down.

You only get to define what stone is for yourself and no one else.

I am completely fine with have a female body. I am not worried about anyone "feminizing" me and don't think it is possible for anyone to do so anyway.

I am a stone butch. I am a lesbian. I am a She.

Oh and yeah I am part of the House of Stone whether you like it or not.

Saying the same things over and over for years and years and years really does get old. Over and out.

EDIT: I am masculine and I am a She.

[SilverStoneFemme]

Originally Posted by BullDog

I am a stone butch. I have lesbian sex. I may not engage in the type of sex that you define as "lesbian sex," however I am still having lesbian sex. How is that possible? Because I am a lesbian- a woman who has sex with another woman and who identities as a lesbian. I am also completely stone.

If anyone thinks it gross for two women to have sex together then that's homophobic to the extreme. There is no such thing as lesbian sex in terms of sex acts. Lesbians can have sex in whatever manner they choose- including being stone.

If there are certain sex acts that you don't enjoy that's fine, but you don't have to go ew ick. You can just talk about what you do enjoy. I don't enjoy penetration, but I also don't put down any butch that does.

You can talk about the sex and type of relationships you like without putting anyone down.

You only get to define what stone is for yourself and no one else.

I am completely fine with have a female body. I am not worried about anyone "feminizing" me and don't think it is possible for anyone to do so anyway.

I am a stone butch. I am a lesbian. I am a She.

Oh and yeah I am part of the House of Stone whether you like it or not.

Saying the same things over and over for years and years and years really does get old. Over and out.

EDIT: I am masculine and I am a She.

i am defining what is stone for this thread. If you're not who and what the definitions for this thread, is.....if you're a lesbian, woman identified and use the pronoun she and her, you're not going to be happy with this thread.

You have the option of starting a thread for those stones who DO identify as being a woman, have no problems with having their genitals touched, and who identify as being stone.

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme

i am defining what is stone for this thread. If you're not who and what the definitions for this thread, is.....if you're a lesbian, woman identified and use the pronoun she and her, you're not going to be happy with this thread.

You have the option of starting a thread for those stones who DO identify as being a woman, have no problems with having their genitals touched, and who identify as being stone.

You don't get to define what stone is and you don't get to say who qualifies as stone and you don't get to put a Lesbians Keep Out Sign on the door- not here. If you really think that's ok maybe check with the Admins.

EDIT: you appear to be making assumptions about my genitals- not cool.

[SilverStoneFemme]

Originally Posted by aishah

(seems we were all posting at the same time...sorry if this covers ground covered in previous posts.)

i'm not sure why lesbian and stone are being posed here in opposition to one another. they are both identities. some folks here identify as BOTH. they are not kinds of sex...they are identities. some stone folks like to do certain sex acts, some don't. some lesbians like certain sex acts, some don't. some define themselves as both lesbian and stone because they don't or do like sex a certain way. others define themselves as lesbian and stone and may have sex differently. i'm really uncomfortable with the positioning of lesbian and stone as opposite to one another, on the basis of certain sex acts "belonging" to lesbian and certain sex acts "belonging" to stone. i'm not lesbian, and i am stone (though not with the exact same sex boundaries as some folks...maybe with similar boundaries to others), but it still makes me extremely uncomfortable. particularly because there are a LOT of lesbian stone femmes AND butches here. as has already been stated.

if silverstone or others don't like some sex acts and for them that is how they understand stone...that's cool. but that doesn't make some sex acts explicitly "lesbian" and others "stone." they're just sex acts. lesbian and stone are identities. none of those identities or sex acts are inherently better than another, and they do not have to be mutually exclusive.

i for one am grateful that there is another stone thread here. but i don't want having another stone thread to mean we exclude stone folks who don't define themselves exactly one way. or for it to mean that we are positioning stone as somehow opposite or exclusive of lesbian.

So sorry, aishash, as much as i appreciate your previous posts, and the props you've given me, i must disagree.

Stone, in this thread, is different than lesbian.

Should you want to start a thread that includes lesbian, you have the opportunity to do so.

Stone, here, is an identity of and for itself.

This is a place where a small group of folx can come and not be pressured to conform to 14 other definitions. Where non-lesbian, non-female genitialia receptive, non-female pronoun stones can be open about who they are.

And not apologize for it.

[princessbelle]

Originally Posted by SilverStoneFemme

So sorry, aishash, as much as i appreciate your previous posts, and the props you've given me, i must disagree.

Stone, in this thread, is different than lesbian.

Should you want to start a thread that includes lesbian, you have the opportunity to do so.

Stone, here, is an identity of and for itself.

This is a place where a small group of folx can come and not be pressured to conform to 14 other definitions. Where non-lesbian, non-female genitialia receptive, non-female pronoun stones can be open about who they are.

And not apologize for it.

So let me see if i've got this straight....

If we identify as "She" or if you are a lesbian in any shape or form we are not welcome on this thread. And as far as Masculine...don't matter...you HAVE to ID as Hy or He.

Last i looked YOU id as she.

Last i heard you can't tell us where we can and can't post. Pretty sure only Mods can do that.

This reminds me of a club house when we were kids that said "ONLY ___ allowed".

Sorry, that just didn't fly past the 2nd grade for most of us.

If us "Lesbians" and Lesbian supporters make you go "ewwy".

Too bad.