Neurodiversity

Andrew, Jr. · 03-02-2010, 03:01 PM

Now that is one of my issues...the secrecy issue is a main issue of PTSD. So, how do we do this?

Apocalipstic · 03-02-2010, 03:05 PM

I refuse to be shamed into hiding any more.

Apocalipstic · 03-04-2010, 09:28 AM

I wonder sometimes if I were neurotypical I would see things the same way and the same things would seem blaringly obvious.

I have a difficult time with what feelings are and how they differ from thoughts.

Cyclopea, I really like the idea of a Safe Zone as long as everyone is welcome.

Then, people who might be triggered by certain types of discussions could just avoid the Safe Zone?

Andrew, Jr. · 03-04-2010, 10:31 AM

To me, right now, I am in a place where I feel like my favorite show, "The Sopranos". They conspired against anyone who stood in their way. I am that man who stood in their way.

Apocalipstic · 03-04-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

To me, right now, I am in a place where I feel like my favorite show, "The Sopranos". They conspired against anyone who stood in their way. I am that man who stood in their way.

Read what I posted in the PTSD thread to you.

Everything is OK, really!

The PTSD is kicked in for you. Maybe spend the day with your babies and really notice petting them and how much they love you.

That is what is important, not a group.

I promise.

Andrew, Jr. · 03-04-2010, 10:51 AM

Jen,

Yes, I am. I think a day away will do wonders for me. My twich is back, and I had night terrors last night. It is going full force.

Thanks.

Apocalipstic · 03-04-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Jen,

Yes, I am. I think a day away will do wonders for me. My twich is back, and I had night terrors last night. It is going full force.

Thanks.

Yeah, take a day off for you! I do that often.

Hell, recently I took a week off from everyone.

violaine · 03-10-2010, 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=apocalipstic;60705]I wonder sometimes if I were neurotypical I would see things the same way and the same things would seem blaringly obvious.

what seems blaringly obvious to me is when NT's possess some odd sense of 'loyalty' to one another - even if all of the facts are not there , or even when another model is readily available to them. thinking outside of the box is not something i have experienced with many NT's.

i am writing about various family dynamics, friendships, and work environments - Sticking Together Policy- on unhealthy levels, for the sake of sticking together! like that is more important than opening up a mind to potential growth - or at least not ruling it out.

I have a difficult time with what feelings are and how they differ from thoughts.

Cyclopea, I really like the idea of a Safe Zone as long as everyone is welcome.

Then, people who might be triggered by certain types of discussions could just avoid the Safe Zone?

Apocalipstic · 03-10-2010, 09:57 AM

[quote=violaine;64174]

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Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I wonder sometimes if I were neurotypical I would see things the same way and the same things would seem blaringly obvious.

what seems blaringly obvious to me is when NT's possess some odd sense of 'loyalty' to one another - even if all of the facts are not there , or even when another model is readily available to them. thinking outside of the box is not something i have experienced with many NT's.

i am writing about various family dynamics, friendships, and work environments - Sticking Together Policy- on unhealthy levels, for the sake of sticking together! like that is more important than opening up a mind to potential growth - or at least not ruling it out.

I have a difficult time with what feelings are and how they differ from thoughts.

Cyclopea, I really like the idea of a Safe Zone as long as everyone is welcome.

Then, people who might be triggered by certain types of discussions could just avoid the Safe Zone?

Yes, sometimes the loyalty seems to be to those they perceive have power somehow. Even if it is blatantly obvious that said persons are operating in their own toxic self interests.

Maybe it is fear of being perceived as an outcast or feeling alone?

There is the feeling word again. Are "feelings" and "feeling nauseated" or "feeling alone" the same thing?

violaine · 03-10-2010, 10:13 AM

NT and AT wiring [aspies, for example]- are so different in socialisation/survival areas. if an NT is hard wired for socialisation- peer pressure-being 'normal' and whatever schedule to follow from the Book of Codes for Normals, it makes sense that feeling like an 'outcast' would not be so good for an NT - it might mean that less people [in a group situation of NT's] find forgiveness for being human. making mistakes- and if one NT person turns their back on someone, how many times have you seen others do the same?

there are NT's who are less judgmental, not quick to take sides, or who do not follow the schedule from Book of Codes for Normals, et c. and there are also AT's who do obsess on being 'normal' - but where does that come from?

Andrew, Jr. · 03-10-2010, 10:19 AM

Belle, I have no idea. Good idea to think about.

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Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Jen, Yes, I am. I think a day away will do wonders for me. My twich is back, and I had night terrors last night. It is going full force. Thanks.

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violaine Timed Out How Do You Identify?: atypical Preferred Pronoun?: plague words and phrases Relationship Status: love wise guys of the avian world Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wekiva springs basin Posts: 3,236 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,934 Thanked 3,293 Times in 1,301 Posts Rep Power: 0	[QUOTE=apocalipstic;60705]I wonder sometimes if I were neurotypical I would see things the same way and the same things would seem blaringly obvious. what seems blaringly obvious to me is when NT's possess some odd sense of 'loyalty' to one another - even if all of the facts are not there , or even when another model is readily available to them. thinking outside of the box is not something i have experienced with many NT's. i am writing about various family dynamics, friendships, and work environments - Sticking Together Policy- on unhealthy levels, for the sake of sticking together! like that is more important than opening up a mind to potential growth - or at least not ruling it out. I have a difficult time with what feelings are and how they differ from thoughts. Cyclopea, I really like the idea of a Safe Zone as long as everyone is welcome. Then, people who might be triggered by certain types of discussions could just avoid the Safe Zone?

03-10-2010, 10:13 AM	#10
violaine Timed Out How Do You Identify?: atypical Preferred Pronoun?: plague words and phrases Relationship Status: love wise guys of the avian world Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wekiva springs basin Posts: 3,236 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,934 Thanked 3,293 Times in 1,301 Posts Rep Power: 0	NT and AT wiring [aspies, for example]- are so different in socialisation/survival areas. if an NT is hard wired for socialisation- peer pressure-being 'normal' and whatever schedule to follow from the Book of Codes for Normals, it makes sense that feeling like an 'outcast' would not be so good for an NT - it might mean that less people [in a group situation of NT's] find forgiveness for being human. making mistakes- and if one NT person turns their back on someone, how many times have you seen others do the same? there are NT's who are less judgmental, not quick to take sides, or who do not follow the schedule from Book of Codes for Normals, et c. and there are also AT's who do obsess on being 'normal' - but where does that come from?

03-10-2010, 10:19 AM	#11
Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Belle, I have no idea. Good idea to think about.