Ketchup anyone? - Page 2

Hollylane · 07-15-2012, 11:33 AM

I rarely use ketchup because of the sugar content, and the low carb variety simply tastes like tomato paste to me....

Because I love words so much, here was my first thought when I saw your thread:

Origin of word

The word ketchup is derived from the Chinese ke-tsiap, a pickled fish sauce. It made its way to Malaysia where it became kechap and ketjap in Indonesia. Catsup and catchup are acceptable spellings used interchangably with ketchup, however, ketchup is the way it is popularly used. "Catsup", which dates to the same time, may well be a different Romanization of the same word, trying to come closer to a sound that doesn't really exist in English.

In the 1800s, "ketchup" was most common in Britain and "catsup" was most common in the US for reasons unknown. The two words never really canceled each other out because in their formative years, there weren't spelling dictionaries choosing a "correct" version of words. (Many Americans pronounced "catsup" the same as "ketchup" in any case.) Today, "ketchup" is the dominant term in both countries, though "catsup" still has its strongholds, especially in the southern US.

CeriseNin · 07-15-2012, 11:37 AM

It's kinda funny that I don't post here since...forever, but a thread about ketchup draws me out.

-facepalm-

The JD · 07-15-2012, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobi

I'm with you on this one. I dont use ketchup at all, so I never bought it. So, someone on this site is eating 9 bottles a year. LOL.

Now I'm going to be observing ketchup usage among members at the Reunion.

dark_crystal · 07-15-2012, 12:26 PM

Best way to eat ketchup: MEATLOAF

Ciaran · 07-15-2012, 01:25 PM

Ketchup is vile, absolutely vile. Cannot stand it and don't like the way many people cover it over their food (I tend to have rather intolerant food habits). That said, I'd instinctively opt for Heinz over other brands because of the old Heinz - Joe DiMaggio story.

I like, in limited usage, HP sauce (not sure if it's widely available across the pond) and hot English mustard. I also love mayonnaise on french fries.

puddin' · 07-15-2012, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciaran

I like, in limited usage, HP sauce (not sure if it's widely available across the pond) and hot English mustard. I also love mayonnaise on french fries.

love me some hp sauce, and hot english mustard is all i buy.

and mayo on fries rawks out loud!!

spritzerJ · 07-15-2012, 01:43 PM

This thread has me wanting to can my own ketchup now. hmm.... I wonder..

I don't use it too much. I like it on hot dogs, rarely fries. When I see people put ketchup on hash browns I want to cry for the hash browns. . Sometimes mixed with mayo to make that pink dipping sauce for tater tots. Mostly on my burgers I love mayo/mustard (anything that gets close to Burgerville sauce makes me swoon).

stepfordfemme · 07-15-2012, 08:30 PM

Just sayin that it might be me who's going through 9 bottles of ketchup a year.

Love it. Like disgusting amounts. Heinz for sure in the giant Costco sized bottles

Yup. Haters gonna hate

not2shygrrl · 07-15-2012, 09:11 PM

Oh the sloppy-er the burger is with ketchup rolling off the sides and over your fingers makes for one of the bestest burgers! Give it to me sloppy BABY and hold the bacon and cheese!

Oh, BTW I was born and raised in Pittsburgh Pa. home of Heinz Ketchup! and many other Heinz varieties!! Sometimes how you were raised just can't be changed! <wink>

always2late · 07-15-2012, 10:16 PM

I don't really use ketchup, unless a recipe calls for it. When I do buy it, I buy Heinz (ARE there other brands?? lol)

*Anya* · 07-15-2012, 10:25 PM

Ketchup makers give customers choices

June 2, 2012 12:00 am
By Teresa F. Lindeman / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Maybe ketchup fans aren't all that focused on high fructose corn syrup, after all.

ConAgra Foods, maker of Hunt's ketchup, made a bold move a couple of years ago by switching away from the controversial sweetener in favor of traditional sugar. The Omaha, Neb., company said at the time that it was changing "in direct response to consumer demand."

But that was then. A company spokeswoman confirmed this week that ConAgra has switched back, although it will still offer an option for those consumers who are avoiding high fructose corn syrup.

"Yes, we made a recent ingredient change to Hunt's ketchup, but will continue offering our 100 percent natural line that contains table sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup," said Lanie Friedman.

She added, "Overall, consumer demand for the high fructose corn syrup-free ketchup was not as strong as expected."

The company's new approach appears closer to the strategy adopted by Pittsburgh food maker -- and dominant U.S. ketchup maker -- H.J. Heinz Co., which more than two years ago introduced a Simply Heinz ketchup product made with sugar instead of altering the sweetener in its main ketchup offering.

A Heinz spokeswoman said giving customers choices to fit their lifestyle and dietary needs seems to be working. In addition to the version made with sugar, there are organic, no-salt and reduced sugar varieties.

"By offering a range of options while keeping our traditional Heinz ketchup at the heart of our lineup, consumers can enjoy the great taste of Heinz ketchup no matter what their lifestyle needs may be," Jessica Jackson said. "Simply Heinz is our most popular lifestyle variety today and is widely available at most major retailers nationwide."

Nationally, the debate over whether one form of sweetener is healthier than the other is likely to continue, and manufacturers will keep trying to determine where to place their bets.

For a couple of years now, any discussion of ketchup on the Heinz Facebook page has drawn a comment or two from someone avoiding high fructose corn syrup. Just this week, when the company asked for feedback on its Dip & Squeeze condiment package, commenter Alan Wilkes posted, "Not until you remove High Fructose Corn Syrup...."

One bid to alter the debate by changing the name of the sweetener ran into a setback this week. The Food and Drug Administration rejected a request from the Corn Refiners Association to authorize "corn sugar" as an alternate name for high fructose corn syrup.

Among its reasons for turning down the petition, the FDA said sugar is a "solid, dried and crystallized food," but syrup is an "aqueous solution or liquid food." So using the term "sugar" would not accurately describe the food or its properties.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...38589/?print=1

willow · 07-16-2012, 06:39 AM

Ketchup is ok, I don't hate the stuff but I rarely want it on my food. But, once in a blue moon I just have to have it! The bottle in my cupboard is small and when it's finished, or when I throw it out because I can't remember how old it is, I'll buy another small bottle in whichever shop I happen to be in when I think of it. Store own brands are fine, no ketchup snobbery here.

Just last week I threw out an unopened bottle of HP sauce 6months out of date. Dunno when it was bought, I don't remember buying it, but I clearly did! lol

The mayo light in the fridge is still in date, pretty sure. I usually buy a couple (maybe 3 if I have a BBQ) of the squeezy bottled stuff per year.

Other peoples condiment habits don't bother me unless they are being an arse about it. "I can't possibly eat this burger/fries/sausage butty, because it isn't dripping in ketchup!!" Really? Well there isn't any. Get a grip.

Soft*Silver · 07-16-2012, 02:03 PM

I rarely use condiments on my food. If I eat a hot dog, I use mustard, saurekraut and mashed potatoes, if I am in the mood for something special. If its naked, I will use ketchup but thats more for lubrication than taste. The dryness of the bun and hot dog makes me gag. Remember, i had surgery to super tighten my hiatus and it is hard for me to swallow most foods without some extra effort.

For hamburgers, i eat them without even a bun. IF I eat them with a bun, I use ketchup but have to have onions to cover the taste of the ketchup.

If I eat a fast food bought hamburger, its like eating oatmeal to me. its not real meat. Its not a real burger. Its a mess of psuedoflavors. Its for filling purposes only, not nutritional nor taste value.

I dont care what brand. As long as its not the damn green or purple stuff they manufactured awhile ago.

my sub eats ketchup like its gods gift to the world. I broke him of putting it on everything I cooked until he at least tasted it. But nothing compared to the Cock....its some kind of sauce that has a rooster on its bottle...spicy sauce. I wont use it. I cant tolerate spicy stuff. And this stuff is only found in one store in our area...and we are almost out. I dont care. He can go buy it.

not2shygrrl · 07-16-2012, 05:59 PM

Yup, sure did! Years back (maybe 8 or 9-ish) Heinz made multiple colors in katsup. I remember green, and purple as well as the traditional red. Does any one else remember this?

Also, before they fluffed up the spicy ketchup bottles, the spicy ketchup was pretty good and often used as a starter for a bbq sauce!

Beloved · 07-16-2012, 06:02 PM

Do they still make spicy ketchup? I'm intrigued. I don't buy ketchup very much but I'm interested in that.

not2shygrrl · 07-16-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beloved

Do they still make spicy ketchup? I'm intrigued. I don't buy ketchup very much but I'm interested in that.

They sure do, and I think a variety of it is organic. I have noticed through family members that often there are varieties or new varieties available to the tri-state area that are not always available elsewhere. The spicy ketchup is a pretty good variation of traditional ketchup.

Okiebug61 · 07-16-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa

I have a question:

How many Heinz people versus Hunts people do we have?

Medusa
HEINZ-girl, all the way!

OK! I have a to confess something. I love Del-Monte Green Beans with Del-Monte Ketchup. I know it's weird but it's me! Red on the other hand likes to dip potato chips into Ketchup. I ordered her some Ketchup flavored Walkers Crisps from Great Britain but it wasn't the same. Now for me I love all of the Walkers Crisps. They are wonderful.

Syr · 07-16-2012, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa

I have a question:

How many Heinz people versus Hunts people do we have?

Medusa
HEINZ-girl, all the way!

Heinz all the way. There is no comparison IMO. And it's good on almost everything except fried eggs. For some reason that is gross to me.

deedarino · 07-16-2012, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobi

So, someone on this site is eating 9 bottles a year. LOL.

This would be me. And I will take anyone else's share if they dont want it ;-)

clay · 07-16-2012, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not2shygrrl

Yup, sure did! Years back (maybe 8 or 9-ish) Heinz made multiple colors in katsup. I remember green, and purple as well as the traditional red. Does any one else remember this?

Also, before they fluffed up the spicy ketchup bottles, the spicy ketchup was pretty good and often used as a starter for a bbq sauce!

Yes, not2...I sure DO remember those colors....chuckling.....my late wife...bless her soul. I always made her dinner every evening before waking her to go to her job as ER Charge Nurse nights. Well I saw the "new colors" and bought the green and purple ones. I made her hamburgers...put the green one on hers...and it dripped down the corners of her mouth...dying her mouth green streaks..she was none too happy with me..but I got a chuckle out of it..she wore that stuff a couple days before it came off...she was more careful with the purple one..lol...thanks for that memory....

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07-15-2012, 10:25 PM	#31
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07-15-2012, 11:33 AM	#21
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07-15-2012, 11:37 AM	#22
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07-15-2012, 01:43 PM	#27
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07-16-2012, 06:39 AM	#32
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07-16-2012, 02:03 PM	#33
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07-16-2012, 05:59 PM	#34
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07-16-2012, 06:02 PM	#35
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