Reclaiming Androgyny & The Text Book Definition

Toph · 08-10-2012, 11:41 AM

June;
i have a lot of issues about the same thing!
sometimes i feel more acceptance in the 'straight' world than in the gay world.
sad but true. when are you butch enough? when are you femme enough?
i wouldn't have expected this, but sadly it seems to be surrounding us. when is enough enough?

Soft*Silver · 08-10-2012, 01:03 PM

its interesting that when people think of women being androgynous they speak often about their masculine energy confusing people.

I have been evolving over the past few years and have found that when I dress lately, its not hyper femme like I use to. And my hair is nowhere near a girl's cut anylonger. My local friends have even said a few times to me that I am drawing closer to androgyny. Which panicked me, because back when I came out, androgyny was a political uniform and I wore it to fit in with the other lesbian feminists. Which of course was the wrong reason to "become" anything, but its where I was at, at the moment.

But here I am, sitting in my pretty and plus store, with short black hair, andro glasses, short nails, jean shorts and a basic t. If I didnt have earrings on, what would mark me as a femme? My nephews, age 8, told me the last time I babysat with him, my hair made me look like a boy. But I am a woman and a femme.

I have to go to a huge awards banquet tomorrow night. I have been looking for a gown to wear. I wonder if this andro period/evolv has something to do with it.

Toph · 08-10-2012, 01:22 PM

when i was a kid i would drive in the car with my momma, she was a New Yorker so her driving was somewhat exciting...she never used her blinkers...i would say momma jesus use the turn signal and she would say and i quote "let the fuckers guess"

that now is my motto in life. it makes me laugh right out loud that my own community spends more time exploring my physical appearance for sign of a gender than extending an olive branch of acceptance which could possibly result in new friendships and understandings.

that is why i prefer dogs!

Lady_Di · 08-10-2012, 06:35 PM

lol... I prefer dogs and horses, too.

thank you for the smile, I needed that

My mother also is a New Yorker, who met quite a few gender bending folks in the 1940's. There really is nothing new under the sun. Just folks like to think everything is new and improved.

Love your mother's attitude. Though I am glad I am not driving behind her!

Toph · 08-10-2012, 06:47 PM

Driving with her was hell enough! I will never view a sidewalk the same again!

08-10-2012, 01:03 PM	#2
SoftSilver Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: rose cottage Posts: 5,594 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 8,948 Thanked 15,896 Times in 4,064 Posts Rep Power*: 21474858	its interesting that when people think of women being androgynous they speak often about their masculine energy confusing people. I have been evolving over the past few years and have found that when I dress lately, its not hyper femme like I use to. And my hair is nowhere near a girl's cut anylonger. My local friends have even said a few times to me that I am drawing closer to androgyny. Which panicked me, because back when I came out, androgyny was a political uniform and I wore it to fit in with the other lesbian feminists. Which of course was the wrong reason to "become" anything, but its where I was at, at the moment. But here I am, sitting in my pretty and plus store, with short black hair, andro glasses, short nails, jean shorts and a basic t. If I didnt have earrings on, what would mark me as a femme? My nephews, age 8, told me the last time I babysat with him, my hair made me look like a boy. But I am a woman and a femme. I have to go to a huge awards banquet tomorrow night. I have been looking for a gown to wear. I wonder if this andro period/evolv has something to do with it. __________________ Pole bachit, a lis chuye. The field sees, the forest hears

08-10-2012, 11:41 AM	#1
Toph Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch as fuck Relationship Status: alone until i heal Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: S W Ontario Posts: 34 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 24 Thanked 124 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 977871	June; i have a lot of issues about the same thing! sometimes i feel more acceptance in the 'straight' world than in the gay world. sad but true. when are you butch enough? when are you femme enough? i wouldn't have expected this, but sadly it seems to be surrounding us. when is enough enough?

08-10-2012, 01:22 PM	#3
Toph Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch as fuck Relationship Status: alone until i heal Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: S W Ontario Posts: 34 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 24 Thanked 124 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 977871	when i was a kid i would drive in the car with my momma, she was a New Yorker so her driving was somewhat exciting...she never used her blinkers...i would say momma jesus use the turn signal and she would say and i quote "let the fuckers guess" that now is my motto in life. it makes me laugh right out loud that my own community spends more time exploring my physical appearance for sign of a gender than extending an olive branch of acceptance which could possibly result in new friendships and understandings. that is why i prefer dogs!

08-10-2012, 06:35 PM	#4
Lady_Di Member How Do You Identify?: Homo sapien Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Home Posts: 353 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,486 Thanked 1,486 Times in 315 Posts Rep Power: 16304881	lol... I prefer dogs and horses, too. thank you for the smile, I needed that My mother also is a New Yorker, who met quite a few gender bending folks in the 1940's. There really is nothing new under the sun. Just folks like to think everything is new and improved. Love your mother's attitude. Though I am glad I am not driving behind her!

08-10-2012, 06:47 PM	#5
Toph Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch as fuck Relationship Status: alone until i heal Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: S W Ontario Posts: 34 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 24 Thanked 124 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 977871	Driving with her was hell enough! I will never view a sidewalk the same again!