Something I just noticed..the very logo of the site

Ginger · 08-21-2012, 04:58 AM

Logos are by necessity, a boiled-down synthesis of what an organization represents.

Choices are made in their design, of elements that are more simplified than in other contexts, for easy and quick visual recognition. In other words, they don't and can't reflect all the nuances of an organization's members or message.

I guess I'm saying, while I usually take symbols deadly seriously, I don't take them that seriously in some contexts. And no I'm not quite awake and I apologize for my Libran contradictory pov.

PS, "Orbit" is in pink italicized script, not just "f" and "femme," so ... oh hell I don't know what I was saying.

~ocean · 08-21-2012, 06:59 AM

I like the logo ~

princessbelle · 08-21-2012, 07:16 AM

I totally really agree with lillith's points.

I remember this logo took June forever to do and she had to revamp it a bunch until she and others were satisified. I love it, personally. I realize that is not what this is specifically about, so here are my thoughts...

We are a butch/femme website and not a generic gay one. If this was just a gay site in general, i doubt i would be here. I fit here. In the real gay world it is hard to fit in sometimes when living the B/F lifestyle.

As far as the pink F, I'm guessing here but i believe it is customary when forming a new site to choose a couple specific colors so that your site stands out from the rest. Not sure but i see the other forum sites all have colors picked and they all are different.

I guess if we are trying to let go of any binary, it can come back full circle and make that an ok thing for the femme part to be pink. Or the B part. I believe the people that are regulars here or even the new peeps know, or will soon find out, that pink does not equal femme, nor does it equal girly girl. Neither does blue or purple or yellow.

I think it is more basic than that and the colors just look better on the black with no secret meaning or subliminal message. Even if you read it backwards.

Ginger · 08-21-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by IslandScout

Logos are by necessity, a boiled-down synthesis of what an organization represents.

Choices are made in their design, of elements that are more simplified than in other contexts, for easy and quick visual recognition. In other words, they don't and can't reflect all the nuances of an organization's members or message.

I guess I'm saying, while I usually take symbols deadly seriously, I don't take them that seriously in some contexts. And no I'm not quite awake and I apologize for my Libran contradictory pov.

PS, "Orbit" is in pink italicized script, not just "f" and "femme," so ... oh hell I don't know what I was saying.

Okay now that I'm wide awake, and have read all the thoughtful posts in this thread, I'd like to say that I'm even more sure of what I said before, about logos.

I think this one is great. It's visually engaging, unique, and gives a nod to the wonderful binary nature of butch-femme identity that the site welcomes, while providing something fresh (green, not blue, for example) that reflects the diversity of people here and the evolving community.

Personally I like the part of the logo where threads are all woven together into a circle, reflecting the "circle" of community we build through the threads we read and post on.

MGM (now Columbia Pictures) updated the lady holding the torch, that is part of their logo, in 1993, to represent a more modern notion of Woman. Culture changes, and the symbols we choose to represent that culture, change too.

Maybe in 50 years, the Butch Femme Planet logo will change and reflect whatever happens between now and then. What will that look like?

The question I'm more interested in is, What stays the same? I've been scolded more than once by cultural theorists for my essentialist views but I can't let go of the feeling that there is something essential that makes butch "butch" and femme "femme," and that's what I predict will remain present in the logo over time.

nycfem · 08-21-2012, 10:01 AM

I haven't read this whole thread so sorry if this has already been mentioned but the "f" looks salmon colored to me, certainly not the stereotypical baby pink. Kind of like pink on fire, fierce.

Ginger · 08-21-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nycfembbw

I haven't read this whole thread so sorry if this has already been mentioned but the "f" looks salmon colored to me, certainly not the stereotypical baby pink. Kind of like pink on fire, fierce.

On my computer, it looks hot pink. Tssss! Yow! It's burnin' hot!

girl_dee · 08-21-2012, 10:29 AM

i noticed it right away. i just shrugged it off as me being picky. i appreciate the work that went into all of it, and the work to maintain it.

i was once accused as being a Top incognito because i use blue font.

i don't like pink, i like blue. That's it that's all.

girl_dee · 08-21-2012, 12:13 PM

Can you bring back the word Fuckery, in brown camo, for Syr?

Are we sending requests to Juney?~~~

Medusa · 08-21-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajun_dee

Can you bring back the word Fuckery, in brown camo, for Syr?

Are we sending requests to Juney?~~~

I LOVED the fuckery logo. Alas though, people said everything from "It's arrogant" to "the word 'fuckery' is offensive" to "what about the children?"

I still think that "Queer Fuckery" fits what we do here for the most part

Novelafemme · 08-21-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nycfembbw

I haven't read this whole thread so sorry if this has already been mentioned but the "f" looks salmon colored to me, certainly not the stereotypical baby pink. Kind of like pink on fire, fierce.

YES! I have always thought the same thing.

I appreciate the OP's critical thinking skills and applaud her for voicing thoughts that have made me think a bit harder in terms of the possibility of a traditional color schemata and its (potential for being a) social construct.

I have always loved the intertwining nature of the Plant's logo. While I personally don't love pink, I appreciate the vibrant nature of the chosen colors.

They pop and we as a community pop!

princessbelle · 08-21-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nycfembbw

I haven't read this whole thread so sorry if this has already been mentioned but the "f" looks salmon colored to me, certainly not the stereotypical baby pink. Kind of like pink on fire, fierce.

It's a fierce pink to me too.

And ya know what? I've loved pink all my life. There are 47 shades of pink actually. Not all colors have that many. Brown for instance only has 22.

I write in pink on here. I have tons of pink clothes. It doesn't make me any more or any less a girly girl. It's not a binary thought or anything like that.

I liked pink before pink was cool.

Not because it has any association to being a girl, truth. It's just a beautiful color between red and the shade of white. It pops. It's pretty.

Just_G · 08-21-2012, 08:56 PM

I see randomness, graffiti, carefree and floating......and no, I have not taken any happy pills today.

When I was creating the washer set for the raffle, I was custom spray painting the rings on the box; of which some of you got to follow my progress as I went. When I was out in my little workshop/garage working on it one night, I was trying to figure out where to put the next ring and which color it needed to be....then I thought: it doesn't matter; it's going to fit right in with the others and it doesn't have to be perfect!

That is how I feel here at the Planet....I fit right in no matter who I am talking to, and god knows I do not have to be perfect.

So having played WITH the logo; I like it even more!

As far as the font....OMG, kudos to y'all trying to find the right one! I sat here for several nights trying different fonts for the writing on the side of the washer set. OMG, who knew there were so many out there!

I ended up going with the bold stencil font for all of the writing. I don't want to have to mess with THAT chore again...lol

Carry on.....

Dude · 08-21-2012, 11:30 AM

so , I log in after watching the movie Albert Nobbs.
The fancy f appears to be supporting the bottom of the B ,
or atleast ready to support if the need arises? (and it will)
If I was more ( a tweener ~with all due respect)
the middle of the spectrum then
(I think) I could likely find support and friendships many other places.
I have (more than once) been escorted to the door by women at all women events.
Where I live , femmes get with each other quite often.

Many of us here (I think) are looking for our f or B , or F and b
I can make friends with butches like Hubert
and imagine my Helen
because Katherine loved Hubert , just as she was.

I'm sorry , what was the question again?

spirograph fan? yes

08-21-2012, 07:16 AM	#3
princessbelle Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: femme ones Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,100 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,380 Thanked 30,499 Times in 5,201 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	My .2 I totally really agree with lillith's points. I remember this logo took June forever to do and she had to revamp it a bunch until she and others were satisified. I love it, personally. I realize that is not what this is specifically about, so here are my thoughts... We are a butch/femme website and not a generic gay one. If this was just a gay site in general, i doubt i would be here. I fit here. In the real gay world it is hard to fit in sometimes when living the B/F lifestyle. As far as the pink F, I'm guessing here but i believe it is customary when forming a new site to choose a couple specific colors so that your site stands out from the rest. Not sure but i see the other forum sites all have colors picked and they all are different. I guess if we are trying to let go of any binary, it can come back full circle and make that an ok thing for the femme part to be pink. Or the B part. I believe the people that are regulars here or even the new peeps know, or will soon find out, that pink does not equal femme, nor does it equal girly girl. Neither does blue or purple or yellow. I think it is more basic than that and the colors just look better on the black with no secret meaning or subliminal message. Even if you read it backwards. __________________ ~ I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. ~ Maya Angelou

08-21-2012, 08:56 PM	#12
Just_G Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch, Switch, Comedian...G...whichever. Preferred Pronoun?: He....with an e! Relationship Status: I'll take kinky & twisted for $200, Alex!! Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: in the middle Posts: 2,281 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 874 Thanked 6,165 Times in 1,450 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I see randomness, graffiti, carefree and floating......and no, I have not taken any happy pills today. When I was creating the washer set for the raffle, I was custom spray painting the rings on the box; of which some of you got to follow my progress as I went. When I was out in my little workshop/garage working on it one night, I was trying to figure out where to put the next ring and which color it needed to be....then I thought: it doesn't matter; it's going to fit right in with the others and it doesn't have to be perfect! That is how I feel here at the Planet....I fit right in no matter who I am talking to, and god knows I do not have to be perfect. So having played WITH the logo; I like it even more! As far as the font....OMG, kudos to y'all trying to find the right one! I sat here for several nights trying different fonts for the writing on the side of the washer set. OMG, who knew there were so many out there! I ended up going with the bold stencil font for all of the writing. I don't want to have to mess with THAT chore again...lol Carry on..... __________________ Happy are those who dream and are ready to pay the price to make them come true!

08-21-2012, 04:58 AM	#1
Ginger Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Femme lesbian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: East coast Posts: 2,416 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5,829 Thanked 12,299 Times in 2,057 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Logos are by necessity, a boiled-down synthesis of what an organization represents. Choices are made in their design, of elements that are more simplified than in other contexts, for easy and quick visual recognition. In other words, they don't and can't reflect all the nuances of an organization's members or message. I guess I'm saying, while I usually take symbols deadly seriously, I don't take them that seriously in some contexts. And no I'm not quite awake and I apologize for my Libran contradictory pov. PS, "Orbit" is in pink italicized script, not just "f" and "femme," so ... oh hell I don't know what I was saying.

08-21-2012, 06:59 AM	#2
~ocean Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme blows a kiss off my finger tips * Preferred Pronoun?: ~ hey girl ~ Relationship Status: ~ single & content ~ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Massachusetts ~coastal Posts: 7,905 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 22,958 Thanked 16,046 Times in 4,728 Posts Rep Power: 21474859	I like the logo ~

08-21-2012, 10:01 AM	#5
nycfem Moderator How Do You Identify?: femme sub Preferred Pronoun?: Baby Grrl Relationship Status: Attached Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,793 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 52,987 Thanked 21,489 Times in 5,101 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I haven't read this whole thread so sorry if this has already been mentioned but the "f" looks salmon colored to me, certainly not the stereotypical baby pink. Kind of like pink on fire, fierce.

08-21-2012, 10:29 AM	#7
girl_dee Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: dee Relationship Status: Hitched up Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Livin’ the Dream Posts: 24,079 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,560 Thanked 54,856 Times in 13,915 Posts Rep Power: 21474873	i noticed it right away. i just shrugged it off as me being picky. i appreciate the work that went into all of it, and the work to maintain it. i was once accused as being a Top incognito because i use blue font. i don't like pink, i like blue. That's it that's all.

08-21-2012, 12:13 PM	#8
girl_dee Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: dee Relationship Status: Hitched up Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Livin’ the Dream Posts: 24,079 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 30,560 Thanked 54,856 Times in 13,915 Posts Rep Power: 21474873	Can you bring back the word Fuckery, in brown camo, for Syr? Are we sending requests to Juney?~~~

08-21-2012, 11:30 AM	#13
Dude Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Perusing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: exit 5 with an exit 21 goal Posts: 1,725 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,351 Thanked 10,606 Times in 1,477 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	so , I log in after watching the movie Albert Nobbs. The fancy f appears to be supporting the bottom of the B , or atleast ready to support if the need arises? (and it will) If I was more ( a tweener ~with all due respect) the middle of the spectrum then (I think) I could likely find support and friendships many other places. I have (more than once) been escorted to the door by women at all women events. Where I live , femmes get with each other quite often. Many of us here (I think) are looking for our f or B , or F and b I can make friends with butches like Hubert and imagine my Helen because Katherine loved Hubert , just as she was. I'm sorry , what was the question again? spirograph fan? yes