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|  08-30-2012, 10:09 AM | #1 | 
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	Rep Power: 0            |  Do you *want* people to assume you're a man? 
			
			In my thread about my doctor esperience, I made mention of the fact that if you saw me, you might assume I'm male. I was asked if I liked the idea of "passing". I replied that I hate that I can/do "pass".  What does everyone else think?
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|  08-30-2012, 11:00 AM | #2 | 
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			Seriously.
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|  08-30-2012, 11:05 AM | #3 | 
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			No I do not.   Yes, it is an issue for butch women. 
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|  08-30-2012, 11:12 AM | #4 | 
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			i cannot answer for Syr but i think she prefers to be seen as a woman in the world. 
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|  08-30-2012, 11:16 AM | #5 | 
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			I shoot for human being first, followed closely by somewhat smart and funny. As long as people are nice to me, how they perceive me is entirely up to them.
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|  08-30-2012, 11:21 AM | #6 | |
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	Rep Power: 21474875            |  Doesn't MIT offer gender studies classes? Quote: 
    I am just kidding with you. I am gonna assume that if you are not a man, or identify as a man, then your not going to like being referred to, or mistaken as a man. It is just that simple. How do you handle it when you "steph" are mistaken for a man? Another interesting topic... 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:03 PM | #7 | 
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			Snow-Gender Studies doesn't overlap with Physics AFAIK.     | 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:11 PM | #8 | 
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			Um women wear jeans and t shirt too. I understand the underlying stuff that's going on, but I am real confused why people don't understand the issue of butch women not wanting to be seen as men. Oh well, learn something new every day. 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:15 PM | #9 | 
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			I am me.  I don't give a fuck what others think of me.  
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|  08-30-2012, 12:16 PM | #10 | |
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			most female id'ed butches i know want to be perceived as women. most male id'ed and trans butches i know want to be perceived as men. clothing doesn't "make" one's gender id. i agree with bulldog...jeans and t-shirts are not just for men. Quote: 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:21 PM | #11 | |
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|  08-30-2012, 12:22 PM | #12 | 
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			i know what charming is talking about, and i know what bulldog is talking about. we are all just different and assuming is most often not a good thing to do. truth. i like doing tomboy stuff. i'm not a man. i like being a woman. just because i have a ball cap on, ... don't assume i'm male. men don't own the patent to ball caps. | 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:26 PM | #13 | 
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			I went ahead and deleted my message, I dont want to cause drama in this thread,  What I said was misunderstood and I am sorry, have a good day all Dressing masculine, I dunno Cajun, I dress in guys jeans,cargo shorts,t shirts, baseball cap, boxers,wifebeaters,v neck white shirts, I buy from the mens section, | 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:33 PM | #14 | 
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			I am me, male ID's so for Me, yes, but my cloths don't make who I am, my brain does. Other folks not so much. Personal preferences are just that. Am I seen as a man in the world? Sometimes, until I turn sidewise, ya' just can't mistake the chesticals....
		 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:38 PM | #15 | 
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			Put WAY better than I could've/did!
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|  08-30-2012, 12:43 PM | #16 | 
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			I really don't care if a store clerk or someone like that temporarily mistakes me for a man.  But I don't want to be viewed like a man or seen as a man or treated as  man.  It also doesn't surprise me that butches who prefer male pronouns wouldn't care. I do wear all mens clothes and I am a butch woman.   
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 I wasn't born with a handbook that said I had to dress in certain clothes, and certain colors. It bothers me that along with gender assignment so many think the outer part has to meet the so called "normal" look. 
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|  08-30-2012, 12:48 PM | #18 | 
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			let  see  ,  yes  i  get called  Sir  alot  in public  , and I dress  in mens  clothing  , shop in mens  wear dept . yes  I have  the facial hair , have  i takin t-shot  ? NO !  but sometimes  I think and  react  like a  male ..but  who  doesnt ?  each person can act   and  think in thier  own way! some  use  the  hy , he , boi , boy  but  as I said  each to thier  own and  do i get  double  takeing  looks   ? bet your ass I do  , do I care ? hell no ..I am me.:cigar    
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|  08-30-2012, 12:48 PM | #19 | 
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			I apologize if that reference offended you , I didn't realize but I dont like them being called that either I just didn't know what else they are called, tank tops I guess hope that's better , id take the reference out of my post but cant from my phone.
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|  08-30-2012, 12:49 PM | #20 | 
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			That was exactly what I was trying to say thank you ,Nik
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