Laws to make you healthier

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I certainly agree about packaging plants and processed food. 100%

But it totally weirds me out for the government to tell us what to do...I hate that.

Thoughts about the goverment being involved in personal choice?

I don't see how, in the case of restaurants and salt, the government is telling individuals what to do. I mean, I'm not saying, "You're wrong"...I just don't understand how that's the government telling individuals what to do. I see it as the government telling companies not to feed us crap.

I mean, if you, the individual, want to sit down to a meal of Crisco and a container of Morton's, by all means, that should definitely be your prerogative. However, when I go to a restaurant there is some sort of expectation the food I'm eating isn't going to kill me. And adding more salt to food in a restaurant is just ridiculous. Using hydrogenated oils (transfats) is just ridiculous. Hardly anyone uses these products at home (Crisco being an exception). And adding salt in a restaurant is just ludicrous.

In my opinion, Americans DO need to be weaned off of salt. It's in everything. We're sooooooo accustomed to it being in everything that we then add more of it.

I mean, have you (royally or personally) ever tried to NOT eat salt for a week? Or even one day? It's nearly impossible. It's sometimes even used on fresh produce to make it travel further. And packaged foods are the worst for sodium content. It's even used in the packaging of meats. So, if I'm on a low sodium (I have cut it out all together for short bursts, which ended up being more like fasting, because I was seriously limited in what I could eat...I would rather cut out sugar and hfcs honestly, because I was left with many many more choices in what I could eat...and I was able to go months without [white] sugar) diet, I pretty much know what I can eat and can't eat...but in a restaurant (where they don't need salt for anything more than customer satisfaction), I have no idea what they're adding salt to. There's absolutely no way for me to monitor my intake. There's no way for a chef/kitchen manager to tell me either, because it's not even measured in a kitchen. It's just tossed into/onto eveything...even salads.

Americans don't need more salt, but if One wants to have a house made out of salt licks, I think that's fantastic...but I don't think I should have it forced upon me in a restaurant...especially when there's a salt shaker on the table for anyone who wants to pour it all over their food until their brain dries up.


Dylan

[Corkey]

Most foods have sodium of their own, natural salts, one need'nt put more in when cooking. You want more add it yourself.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Dylan

I don't see how, in the case of restaurants and salt, the government is telling individuals what to do. I mean, I'm not saying, "You're wrong"...I just don't understand how that's the government telling individuals what to do. I see it as the government telling companies not to feed us crap.

I mean, if you, the individual, want to sit down to a meal of Crisco and a container of Morton's, by all means, that should definitely be your prerogative. However, when I go to a restaurant there is some sort of expectation the food I'm eating isn't going to kill me. And adding more salt to food in a restaurant is just ridiculous. Using hydrogenated oils (transfats) is just ridiculous. Hardly anyone uses these products at home (Crisco being an exception). And adding salt in a restaurant is just ludicrous.

In my opinion, Americans DO need to be weaned off of salt. It's in everything. We're sooooooo accustomed to it being in everything that we then add more of it.

I mean, have you (royally or personally) ever tried to NOT eat salt for a week? Or even one day? It's nearly impossible. It's sometimes even used on fresh produce to make it travel further. And packaged foods are the worst for sodium content. It's even used in the packaging of meats. So, if I'm on a low sodium (I have cut it out all together for short bursts, which ended up being more like fasting, because I was seriously limited in what I could eat...I would rather cut out sugar and hfcs honestly, because I was left with many many more choices in what I could eat...and I was able to go months without [white] sugar) diet, I pretty much know what I can eat and can't eat...but in a restaurant (where they don't need salt for anything more than customer satisfaction), I have no idea what they're adding salt to. There's absolutely no way for me to monitor my intake. There's no way for a chef/kitchen manager to tell me either, because it's not even measured in a kitchen. It's just tossed into/onto eveything...even salads.

Americans don't need more salt, but if One wants to have a house made out of salt licks, I think that's fantastic...but I don't think I should have it forced upon me in a restaurant...especially when there's a salt shaker on the table for anyone who wants to pour it all over their food until their brain dries up.


Dylan

We (royally of course) actually have been trying to cut down on salt and it is hella difficult if We eat out at all and it makes "Our" feet swell. Grrrr.

I completely agree with you on that.

But.....

Any time I hear govenment intervention abortion and cigarretes jump into my head.....I know 2 very different subjects.

Maybe, if as you suggested they were starting at a lower level along the food preparation chain it would seem like the government was really trying to help, not control. (OMG, I just read this and I am starting to sound like a Libertarian.....)

It would seem ironic if in my state one could legally have a gun in a restaurant/bar, but not have salt....

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

We (royally of course) actually have been trying to cut down on salt and it is hella difficult if We eat out at all and it makes "Our" feet swell. Grrrr.

I completely agree with you on that.

But.....

Any time I hear govenment intervention abortion and cigarretes jump into my head.....I know 2 very different subjects.

Maybe, if as you suggested they were starting at a lower level along the food preparation chain it would seem like the government was really trying to help, not control. (OMG, I just read this and I am starting to sound like a Libertarian.....)

It would seem ironic if in my state one could legally have a gun in a restaurant/bar, but not have salt....

Did I read incorrectly?

The way I read the article was that salt wouldn't be allowed to be used in the kitchen...not that salt would be removed from table tops in restaurants.

It was my understanding the cooks wouldn't be allowed to use salt, but if a customer wanted to salt until the cows came home, they would be able to.


Going Back To Re-Read,
Dylan

[Dylan]

I still really really really want to see hfcs removed from everything.

The fact that it hasn't been removed from things is just completely indicative that this country is run by corporations as far as I'm concerned. For all of this talk about The Obesity Epidemic and The Diabetes Epidemic, and how much we're supposed to *care* about it...yet, The Man is still allowed to use this product. And THEN...we make people feel guilty and tell them to try to *control* their weight while we feed them this product that makes *controlling* the issue impossible. And then, when people say, "Well, I've been eating *healthy*, I exercise, I do A,B,C so I don't know what's going on...and I'm always hungry"...we blame them...while feeding them more hfcs. Gahhhhhhh, it drives me crazy. Of COURSE, you're always hungry...they're feeding you a chemical that MAKES you 'always hungry' while it messes with your insulin producers/suppressors and glycogen changers (except we're not going to tell you that part...so, you just keep trying to lose weight, because being 'overweight' is really unhealthy...oh and btw, we're going to make really messed up *ideal* weights. In fact, we're going to lower the *ideal* weights to numbers that are pretty much unattainable when factored against the shit we're going to feed you).

OMG, I hate The Man.


The End,
Dylan...whose head just exploded a little bit