2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish

[Miss Scarlett]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

What you didn't want to hear how if you aren't a millionaire you live only to collect your government check? I can't imagine why!

Cheers
Aj

i know, right? What i'd love to see is those who believe that folks receiving government assistance are living the good life try to live for 6 months on that assistance...let them learn what it's like to buy food for a month on far less than the cost of one of their designer label suits, try to pay their bills and keep gas in their cars, and deal with the frustrations and roadblocks faced by Medicaid patients...would they change their tune? i hope so...

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett

i know, right? What i'd love to see is those who believe that folks receiving government assistance are living the good life try to live for 6 months on that assistance...let them learn what it's like to buy food for a month on far less than the cost of one of their designer label suits, try to pay their bills and keep gas in their cars, and deal with the frustrations and roadblocks faced by Medicaid patients...would they change their tune? i hope so...

In the novel I'm writing, one of the main characters is scion of a rich and aristocratic family. Her grandfathers (her mother's fathers), horrified at the mess their immediate offspring made of their lives, have a stipulation that at the age of 18 their progeny are cut off *completely*. They must spend the next ten years making their own way in the world without any assistance from the family. No money, no using family contacts, nothing other than what they can do for themselves. Only after that decade can they dip into the family funds. I would like to see rich families in the real world do something like that.

One of the best things my sister and I ever did, and the thing I credit most with preventing us from being really obnoxious, privileged, upper-middle class kids loosed upon an unsuspecting world, was enlist in the US Army. While my sister did, eventually, we were both in as ordinary grunts and so we were no longer hobnobbing with the hoi polloi but with working class folks. It was an education for both of us and we are only one generation removed from grinding poverty and my parents had wealth we were not in the celestial ranks occupied by the likes of Romney. Imagine if the Romney boys, at 18, found themselves completely cut off from their parent's money. I think that if they had to work their way through college or join the military as enlisted, they would have a very different perspective.

To hear Mittens talk as if he had scrabbled his way up the economic ladder turns my stomach because it is so obviously untrue.

Oh and arrgh, I hope ye be enjoying Talk Like a Pirate Day.

Cheers
Aj

[theoddz]

I have often thought to myself that, despite the fact that Mittens is filthy rich, he sure doesn't appear to be very bright. He has absolutely NO concept of what ordinary working people go through, trying to live ordinary lives. One would think that it would take some level of "smarts" to amass the kind of wealth Mittens has, but by Jeebuz, he sure appears to be about as stupid as a box of hammers.

I guess that's how one would discern between inherited/old money and someone who used their smarts and a goodly amount of sweat from their own brow to amass such wealth. To me, it only makes Mitt look more arrogant, more spoiled, more disgusting and..."Less intelligent" (stupid).

Theo

[Linus]

This idea of only one kind of way of proving one's identity is definitely not thought out. That said, I was curious what Canada does and found this: http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx...dex&lang=e#one

What's interesting is the 2nd option if you can't meet the first. I've never had a driver's license (I've lived most of my life in cities where public transit was useful) and used the 2nd option all my life. It even includes options for the homeless identify themselves so they can vote.

[Linus]

Oh.. and if you ever wanted to know who to throw your hard earned $$ at when it comes to entertainment, this should help.

[Toughy]

http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt...-to-kill-fetus

Mitt Romney's son, Tagg Romney, has been discovered to have engaged in a contract with a surrogate mother with the stipulations that if the child being carried was not up to the Romney's specifications, that the Romney family would have the final say if the child would be aborted or not.

I doubt seriously this is true........however the 'wow' factor is hard to pass up

I'm not familiar with this website. I have not fact checked this story. I so could not pass up the chance to post this story......because sometimes I am like that..............

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Toughy

http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt...-to-kill-fetus

Mitt Romney's son, Tagg Romney, has been discovered to have engaged in a contract with a surrogate mother with the stipulations that if the child being carried was not up to the Romney's specifications, that the Romney family would have the final say if the child would be aborted or not.

I doubt seriously this is true........however the 'wow' factor is hard to pass up

I'm not familiar with this website. I have not fact checked this story. I so could not pass up the chance to post this story......because sometimes I am like that..............

Best way to find out how true (or somewhat true) something might be (IMO) is to do a search and see how many other places carry it: https://www.google.com/news?ncl=ddTc...=English&hl=en

Apparently TMZ broke the story: http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/20/mitt-r...t-bill-handel/