Fallen Hero

aishah · 10-11-2012, 09:59 AM

i don't really have an opinion about the sports aspect - i agree with daktari that it's not cut and dried and that i tend to lean more towards - of course he should be stripped of his title. but i think there are so many problems with how sports works and how athletes are treated and all of that and to pick on this specific situation might be too much of missing the forest for the trees.

one thing i find really interesting is the perspective of my friends who've had cancer on the situation. i have a friend who is very vocal about having always thought lance was pretty much an ass and how very few of her fellow cancer survivors idolize him the way people outside of the cancer survivor community seem to.

macele · 10-11-2012, 12:32 PM

obviously i'm not a professional athlete. so i don't know what they face from day to day. they face things i've never encountered. but i'll say this, the athlete owes me a clean body, ... free from drugs that will make the player better. free from drugs that will make the playing field unfair. that's ethics. that's a code a player should follow. if lance took drugs, he should pay, ... whatever the payment is. the highest payment is that he will have to live with cheating. if.

a cyclist is an amazing athlete. it takes strength of the mind and body like no other sport.

conspiracy, they say ...
(they are speaking of lance) Instead he exercised his legal right not to contest the evidence and knowingly accepted the imposition of a ban from recognized competition for life and disqualification of his competitive results from 1998 forward. The entire factual and legal basis on the outcome in his case and the other six active riders’ cases will be provided in the materials made available online later today. Two other members of the USPS Team, Dr. Michele Ferrari and Dr. Garcia del Moral, also received lifetime bans for perpetrating this doping conspiracy. -- USADA CEO Travis T. Tygart, October 10, 2012

armstrong says that he doesn't/didn't dope. a lot of other people say that he did. i'm not the judge or the jury. a part of me says he should be fighting it all the way. i don't know. i don't know.

10-22-2012, 10:06 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...onference-live

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...-forgotten-uci

girl_dee · 10-22-2012, 10:33 AM

i felt this same way when i found out Mark McGuire had been on steroids.

i loved him, followed him, admired him... the all American red headed kid who grew up to be the All American Baseball player, i thought he was phenomenal behind the bat.

then i found out, and i pretty much decided that there are no more sports heroes left in the world.

10-11-2012, 09:59 AM	#1
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10-11-2012, 12:32 PM	#2
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,231 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	obviously i'm not a professional athlete. so i don't know what they face from day to day. they face things i've never encountered. but i'll say this, the athlete owes me a clean body, ... free from drugs that will make the player better. free from drugs that will make the playing field unfair. that's ethics. that's a code a player should follow. if lance took drugs, he should pay, ... whatever the payment is. the highest payment is that he will have to live with cheating. if. a cyclist is an amazing athlete. it takes strength of the mind and body like no other sport. conspiracy, they say ... (they are speaking of lance) Instead he exercised his legal right not to contest the evidence and knowingly accepted the imposition of a ban from recognized competition for life and disqualification of his competitive results from 1998 forward. The entire factual and legal basis on the outcome in his case and the other six active riders’ cases will be provided in the materials made available online later today. Two other members of the USPS Team, Dr. Michele Ferrari and Dr. Garcia del Moral, also received lifetime bans for perpetrating this doping conspiracy. -- USADA CEO Travis T. Tygart, October 10, 2012 armstrong says that he doesn't/didn't dope. a lot of other people say that he did. i'm not the judge or the jury. a part of me says he should be fighting it all the way. i don't know. i don't know.

10-22-2012, 10:06 AM	#3
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