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Old 03-19-2010, 08:27 AM   #1
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Choosing. This is the point for me. My partner has MS, it is not a choice. I think if I ponder this long enough, it is going to feel like deliberate child neglect to me, which of course does have consequences.

And in my mind, there is no correlation between a consensual D/s relationship OR getting a chronic, debilitating disease, and CHOOSING to debilitate yourself. Frankly, I feel kind of offended at the insinuation, since I live with and love someone who doesn't have a choice.

And also, unfortunately, most people who acquire MS or other illnesses, often do not have the funds to just hire a fucking nanny or a housekeeper and in some cases, they can't even afford the medical care they need, and this woman, if she is "successful" is going to need some of that too.
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And how did this situation begin to be compared with MS?


I'm not really sure how to feel about this.

I did not choose MS, however I take it on with gusto as I feel it was given
to me because perhaps someone else could not handle it. It is my Gift.
This woman is making a conscious choice to gain weight, has a goal...to
reach. I gained 12 pounds since last month, not because I had a goal...but
because the MS is giving me a hard time along with Raynauds now, and my
mobility has been effected. Her mobility is already effected, and she plans
to make it even harder to do the things I consider myself lucky to do.


So the comparison with this thread
topic and MS has me befuddled this morning.

I shall marinate on this a bit over coffee.






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I was the one who brought up MS. And I brought it up to illustrate there were OTHER reasons why people would not be able to tend to their children, yet that does not make them bad parents. In no way do I compare MS with her being a Gainer. Hers is by choice. MS comes as it does.

I laid in bed last night and thought about her. I thought about how selfish of a person she is for putting her business/pleasure ahead of her children. And then i realized she is a work aholic as well...she cannot escape from her means of work..her web site. She has to condition her body to be fat all the time...

then I thought...no. No. NO! There is something very disturbing about her ...as disturbing as that woman who gave birth to 12 children. They are both using their children to demonstrate they are good people. If not for the kids, would we not turn our faces and look away? She NEEDS those kids to keep our focus on her...its another string for her to pull, another manipulation...
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I was the one who brought up MS. And I brought it up to illustrate there were OTHER reasons why people would not be able to tend to their children, yet that does not make them bad parents. In no way do I compare MS with her being a Gainer. Hers is by choice. MS comes as it does.

I laid in bed last night and thought about her. I thought about how selfish of a person she is for putting her business/pleasure ahead of her children. And then i realized she is a work aholic as well...she cannot escape from her means of work..her web site. She has to condition her body to be fat all the time...

then I thought...no. No. NO! There is something very disturbing about her ...as disturbing as that woman who gave birth to 12 children. They are both using their children to demonstrate they are good people. If not for the kids, would we not turn our faces and look away? She NEEDS those kids to keep our focus on her...its another string for her to pull, another manipulation...
People with MS can and do have and raise and tend to their children.


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Yes, Daywalker, I know they do. One of my dear friends from years ago had MS and she had a family. My point being just because someone has something that interferes with their mobility, that doesnt mean they cant take care of themselves or thier children...


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I am very glad to see that everyone is having a discussion about this, and that so far everyone has been pretty respectful of one another even if we disagree on certain points. What really hurts Me in this case, is that she is consciously choosing to put her own health in danger in order to achieve a record that really should not be something to aim for. She is clearly, at some point, not going to be able to care for her kids and if your going to put your own needs before the needs of your kids then why do you even have them?

I'm not meaning to make anyone upset here and I apologize if anything I say hits a chord with anyone, but I guess I just don't get how she could think of only herself and not her kids. If she wanted to chase some kind of a record in Guiness, why not wait until your kids are older and moved out before you begin something that will surely kill you long before its your time. Its sad really that she is doing this to herself and her family, and even if it is her choice I personally don't agree with it but thats just Me
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Thank You Juney.




And how did this situation begin to be compared with MS?


I'm not really sure how to feel about this.

I did not choose MS, however I take it on with gusto as I feel it was given
to me because perhaps someone else could not handle it. It is my Gift.
This woman is making a conscious choice to gain weight, has a goal...to
reach. I gained 12 pounds since last month, not because I had a goal...but
because the MS is giving me a hard time along with Raynauds now, and my
mobility has been effected. Her mobility is already effected, and she plans
to make it even harder to do the things I consider myself lucky to do.


So the comparison with this thread
topic and MS has me befuddled this morning.

I shall marinate on this a bit over coffee.






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