Elections 2012: BFP Watch Party

[Kobi]

Dear Eric Arnold Garland,

Your righteous indignation is duly noted. However, we are having just a little difficulty taking your temper tantrum seriously.

First of all, we checked the Mayflower records. We confirm your lineage did make the voyage. Unfortunately, they traveled in coach which is the Mayflower equivalent to the 47% slacker class. IF they had traveled first class, your DNA would carry more weight.

Second of all, we appreciate you elaborating on why you yourself are so freakin special. We hear that your unique specialness makes you an authority on all and everything. We have received millions of letters from special people just like you.

We do understand that on the day all of you were born, you were each led to believe a star rose in the east and wise men came bearing gifts. I regret to inform you that your parents lied. You were all nothing but flailing mounds of flesh in stinky diapers screaming your colicy lungs out. Nice to see you have at least outgrown the diapers.

Thirdly, while we appreciate how valuable you THINK you are to the cause, you really arent. While we appreciate you buying into all the rhetoric, the fact you still have to work to make a living, renders you nothing more than a common peon.

Those of us who ARE important do appreciate your willingness to behave like a rat in a maze, chasing the miniscule trinkets of success we set in your path, deluding yourself into thinking you are succeeding. It amuses us to watch you and your overinflated sense of self think you are actually going somewhere.

Fourth, and here is where you become wearisome, you are a necessary cog in the wheel of life but you are also a drain. You are a small business owner. I know you think this makes you special, an entrepeneur, a potential savior. Truth is, you cost us a small fortune. Guaranteed loans, special tax incentives, all the little perkies we feed you is what make it possible for you to be and feel successful.

You own a lily white house in a lily white neighborhood with a lily white fence. It is the handouts you get that makes this possible. You tend to forget the mortgage and property taxes you deduct from your taxes deprives us of billions of dollars of revenue each year. You tend to forget we choose to subsidize the clean water you drink, the remnants of the toilets you flush, the electricty you depend on, the gas for the guzzlers you insist on buying, the food you put on the table......all money given to make your life easier and less expensive. Are you grateful for these gifts? I think not.

Same for your wife, the physician who doesnt see people until they have 4th stage cancer. The hippocratic oath says.....first do no harm. It does not say first do no harm only to those who can afford care. You are merely exploiting an industry for your own personal six figure or more gain. If you and your wife are soooooo concerned about poor people, what are YOU doing to change that?

One last thing....we know you fancy yourself as a job creator. There are millions of unemployed Americans and you can accommodate how many? Do I need to use both hands or will one suffice? Oh, btw, creating more bigoted, sanctimonious, self centered, me-ists doesnt count.

In closing, we thank you for your input. We thoroughly enjoyed it. It added immense laughter to the morning coffee hour.

Please accept this gift from us. Given your excessive whining, we are sure it will come in handy.

Sincerely,

Ask me if I give a shit,
the whom to which this was addressed

[Soon]

"Romney and Tea Party loonies dismissed half the country as chattel and moochers who did not belong in their 'traditional' America. But the more they insulted the president with birther cracks, the more they tried to force chastity belts on women, and the more they made Hispanics, blacks and gays feel like the help, the more these groups burned to prove that, knitted together, they could give the dead-enders of white male domination the boot. The election about the economy also sounded the death knell for the Republican culture wars. Romney was still running in an illusory country where husbands told wives how to vote, and the wives who worked had better get home in time to cook dinner. But in the real country, many wives were urging husbands not to vote for a Brylcreemed boss out of a ’50s boardroom whose party was helping to revive a 50-year-old debate over contraception. Just like the Bushes before him, Romney tried to portray himself as more American than his Democratic opponent. But America’s gallimaufry wasn’t knuckling under to the gentry this time."

- Maureen Dowd, writing for the New York Times.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Ben Stein: The GOP will come back


(CBS News) Before we close the book on the week just past, some last thoughts on Campaign 2012. Republicans have been doing a lot of soul-searching since Tuesday's election - and that includes our contributor Ben Stein:

Wow. It sure hurts to lose, and we in the GOP came so close in so many vital states and in the popular vote.

And, in hindsight, we can see we made some big mistakes - weak behavior in the third debate, wacky Senate candidates, naming as a candidate a man of great wealth and a finance background after a Wall Street debacle.

But let's not cry and swear to leave the country, as some of my Republican friends did the other night.

Our position as a party is not at all terrible. We still control the House. We have enough votes in the Senate to block anything we hate. The Democrats know they won by a modest margin. They have no overwhelming mandate, and they know it.

I have seen our party in far worse shape - after the Goldwater disaster of '64; after Watergate and the thorough beating we got in the 1974 elections when we barely held a third of the House. We have been pronounced dead and buried over and over again. And we've always come back, like the Energizer Bunny.

Only we don't want to be just a bunny. We want to be the creating party, the party of life and energy. And we can be.

We still have great ideas: Limited government; a warm welcome for small business and job creators; appreciation of living by work, not handouts; the protection of innocent life; fairness for he working family; recognition of the basics of individual liberty.

But we have to make some changes in our hearts - big changes. This is not the white man's country exclusively anymore, and it hasn't been for a long time. The strategy of appealing to angry white men is not correct, either morally or practically.

This is a genuine multi-cultural, multi-racial democracy today. We must appeal to working women, to single women, to blacks. In particular, we can and must stop hurting the feelings of Hispanics and start inviting them into our party. We must plead with them to see that we have common cause on many issues, especially small business, the value of hard work, the sanctity of family and life.

We can do it and we will do it.

Next time around, let's find a man or woman with the eloquence and charisma of a Barack Obama on our side, and a party platform that invites everyone, of every sex and race who shares the best of our values into our tent. And at their best, they are still America's best values.

© 2012 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

[Greyson]

Why Arizona is a red state in a sea of blue states

"Before this election cycle, New Mexico experimented with messaging and figured out how to reach its diverse Latino population. They created messages that moved beyond “Sí, se puede” (Yes, we can) and which appealed to first-generation Latinos as well as to sixth-generation Latinos, resulting in a greater voter turnout. New Mexicans, in other words, did not treat Latinos neither as a static or homogenous group, and took steps to ensure its message appealed across generational lines."


http://21border.com/2012/11/12/why-a...f-blue-states/

[The_Lady_Snow]

Georgians 'peacefully' petition the Obama administration, asking to secede from the United States

Posted by Max Blau @maxblau on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM

It's been less than a week since the nation re-elected President Barack Obama, giving the Commander in Chief another four years in office. Unsurprisingly, the election's outcome didn't please everyone. But rather than simply deal with the results, however, thousands of Georgians have decided that they would rather secede from the United States.

LINKYLOO

[Martina]

What would JC -- Jimmy Carter -- say?

[tonaderspeisung]

add alabama, arkansas, colorado, florida, indiana, kentucky, louisiana, michigan, mississippi, missouri, montana, new jersey, new york, north carolina, north dakota, oregon, south carolina and tennessee to the list

they need 25,000 signatures in 30 days to be reviewed by the admin


i think a vote with your feet response is valid to a government you find destructive

it's an interesting where would you draw the line question though

in the past i have toyed with the idea of being an individual secessionist
i find the idea of being a sovereign entity very appealing

[The_Lady_Snow]

Secession petitions filed in 20 states

By Mike Krumboltz, Yahoo! News | The Lookout – 7 hrs ago


In the wake of last week's presidential election, thousands of Americans have signed petitions seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the United States. The petitions were filed on We the People, a government website.
States with citizens filing include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. Oddly, folks from Georgia have filed twice. Even stranger, several of the petitions come from states that went for President Barack Obama.

LINKYLOO

[Toughy]

at least Colorado voters actually legalized marijuana by constitutional amendment.....LEGAL in the state....not decriminalized.....and they also legalized industrial hemp..........

Washington state also legalized marijuana and hemp.

[Corkey]

The White House has a disclaimer on it's petition site, they may or may not get back to them. Under the Constitution citizens have a right to petition the government, that doesn't mean the government must respond.
Although it would be nice to see how they put the rejection letter out...

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Secession petitions filed in 20 states

By Mike Krumboltz, Yahoo! News | The Lookout – 7 hrs ago


In the wake of last week's presidential election, thousands of Americans have signed petitions seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the United States. The petitions were filed on We the People, a government website.
States with citizens filing include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. Oddly, folks from Georgia have filed twice. Even stranger, several of the petitions come from states that went for President Barack Obama.

LINKYLOO

Is up to 27 states now.

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Ohio, Michigan, Misssissippi, Missouri, Montana, New York, New Jersey, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn, South Carolina, Tenn, Texas.

Lots of unhappy people.

[Corkey]

It could very well be all 50, it is just the sore losers coming out of hiding. Nothing will come of it because none will be allowed to leave the union.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Corkey

It could very well be all 50, it is just the sore losers coming out of hiding. Nothing will come of it because none will be allowed to leave the union.

So you think this is election related?

I was thinking it is more reflective of a growing states rights thing i.e. the war on womens reproductive rights was state legislature driven, governors refusing monies for planned parenthood, governors refusing to set up the insurance exchanges under Obamacare, legalization of pot in Colorado and Washington in defiance of it being a class one banned substance under federal law, Arizona and other states setting up their own immigration policies etc.

Kind of miffed my state isnt there yet. Paul Revere must be turning over in his grave.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Kobi

So you think this is election related?

I was thinking it is more reflective of a growing states rights thing i.e. the war on womens reproductive rights was state legislature driven, governors refusing monies for planned parenthood, governors refusing to set up the insurance exchanges under Obamacare, legalization of pot in Colorado and Washington in defiance of it being a class one banned substance under federal law, Arizona and other states setting up their own immigration policies etc.

Kind of miffed my state isnt there yet. Paul Revere must be turning over in his grave.

That is what the elections were all about. It is the red states, read (racists) attempt at dissolving the union, like they tried before. Yes it is an attempt to make the President look weak, and yep they are all nuttier than a cashew on crack.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Corkey

That is what the elections were all about. It is the red states, read (racists) attempt at dissolving the union, like they tried before. Yes it is an attempt to make the President look weak, and yep they are all nuttier than a cashew on crack.

To some degree that may be the case - except those petitions are not all from red states.

Calif, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, NY, NJ, Nevada, Oregon, and Penn are blue states.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Kobi

To some degree that may be the case - except those petitions are not all from red states.

Calif, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, NY, NJ, Nevada, Oregon, and Penn are blue states.

Racists live in all states, their fearless leader batshitcrazy Rush and Beck are on the air waves in all 50 states.

[Martina]

Have all the cool people move out of Texas (what, like a tenth of the population) and move all the tea party racists from other states into Texas and let it secede. Can you imagine how mean-spirited and angry that place would be. Let em hate on each other.

Whenever a gay kid self-identifies, he or she is given the choice to leave the country of Texas and come to us. There will be loving chosen family and friends waiting to welcome her or him.

[Kobi]

Alaska, Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Michigan, Misssissippi, Missouri, Montana, New York, New Jersey, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn, South Carolina, Tenn, Texas, Utah, Wyoming.

My favorite petition is:

Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.

[TexasCowboi]

Originally Posted by Martina

Have all the cool people move out of Texas (what, like a tenth of the population) and move all the tea party racists from other states into Texas and let it secede. Can you imagine how mean-spirited and angry that place would be. Let em hate on each other.

Whenever a gay kid self-identifies, he or she is given the choice to leave the country of Texas and come to us. There will be loving chosen family and friends waiting to welcome her or him.

Excuse me?

[TexasCowboi]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Alaska, Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Michigan, Misssissippi, Missouri, Montana, New York, New Jersey, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn, South Carolina, Tenn, Texas, Utah, Wyoming.

My favorite petition is:

Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported.

I rather like this idea....